felt spiritually unmoored. and interestingly enough i went to the catholic jesuit university, it was the jesuits who taught me to read the bible in the first place as an historical document, encouraged me to not give up on spirituality, but instead look at some other way of expressing my spirituality. they were ones who introduced me to islam. i knew knowing, never knew anything about the koran, but to look into this and see if i could find something that gave me a new outlet to express my spirituality, islam. >> let me try this one out, there is a moment in time and you just alluded to it when you become aware of the inconsistencies that you find in the bible and you begin olook at it more of a historical document and begin to look at it. what's the choice you made and why did you make it to continue to pursue the bible on a historical track, as opposed to continuing along with what you had been taught? >> as a thing of devotion, yeah. well, i remember you know, i remember something that one of my priests said

that the great recession appears to have greatly increased the number of suicides archies perry unmooring explains capitol hill's current stalemate has left the economy at a curious please the unemployment is not just a productivity. an economic issue it's a morphing into a mental health issue and lives are on the line. president of the american counseling association explains the way we understand the relationship between you know our self worth as it relates to having a job and being able to provide for our families and our sense of identity our mental health and overall wellbeing a recent study published in the british. thousand and. five to the two thousand and eight financial collapse men are at a greater risk of suicide because they tend to be the main earners in the family and are less likely to seek help one of the things that we know from the research is that yes people are at risk for suicide for alcohol consumption their risk for interpersonal violence and for aggressiveness in their relationships so we know that there are a host. of outcomes from joblessness so where are the j

rough low, you gave several criteria, how it affects dates really to raise revenue and whether to unmoor you know, the funding from users, what's the effect of that. but a deeper question is how we politically proceed. some suggested that we were more likely to get the funding which i think we all agree in this room, mostly in this room agree it's necessary, maybe through tax reform, through an omnibus bill, through some other vehicle, some larger legislation rather than stand-alone. rather than a straight highway legislation. the need to fill the gap in the trust fund is clear, but sometimes it's easier to address revenue questions in the context of larger legislation. so could any of you sort of give us advice here on what's the history? my recollection is that increases in the gasoline tax in the past are part of larger bills. it's not just straight highway. so could some of you all -- maybe i'll start a little bit with, you don't have a -- i don't have a lot of time here -- >> you can have -- >> jack, why don't you go ahead, kathy, why don't you go next. >> thank you, mr. chairman. y