i'm just unmotivated. >> okay. he was talking about the last time around. and now you're looking at him now and we're talking about this guy, who is, you know, the best in the world at this point. and he's talking about being unmotivated and didn't want to get out of bed and just lying on the couch. what do you make of that? it just seems so, just the complete opposite of what you think an amazing athlete would ever experience mentally, i guess. >> actually, it's not. because here you have someone who at his first olympic games was 15 years old in 2000. i think at some point, i think between the '04 and '08 games i don't think he even took a day off, not even at christmas time. it's very hard for someone, i don't think people really know how tough it is with all the training and stuff that you do continuously. hours upon hours and days upon days. we all have times when you are mentally just exhausted and, you know, he experienced that. he never had a break. so, you know, it's really not uncommon for someone who has been in the sport for so long to sort of m