we have not performed any unpermitted or suspended permitted work. this is supported by dbi inspectors. and this claim was misrepresented by ms. gallagher in her claim in that she credited special inspections to work, that should have been under a permit but those were in fact inspections of work that is cleared to proceed. second, arguments that were not performing special inspections, her latest detail related to the qualifications of mr. forester, our resident engineer, mr. forester is not in fact performing special inspections, he is performing daily inspections. he is our on-site eyes. whenever a special inspection, as required under the building code, for life, safety, or building related structural issues, are either performed by our on-site certified structural engineer who stamps the drawings, or by a person who is certified through our material testing lab. she continues to argue about the pathways at the summit. this is actually work that is permit exempt. it was discussed at the first hearing. and, you know, we do intend -- i did want to

work with you on the details. it could have unintended consequences that could make san francisco a thriving area for unpermitted second in merchandise with no known origin. supervisor wiener: what is the department proposing? i have to say this is frustrating, because my office has had multiple meetings with the department and communications from the chief down. so i would like to know what is the department's position in terms of what would have to change? >> we express these concerns to your aide a week ago, and these were the sentiments from the department. i checked in with the chief, and he asked me to reiterate these concerns. supervisor wiener: i think the concern that was expressed was about businesses that were getting cash over the counter -- in other words, somebody walks in and says here is a jacket, give me cash for it, as opposed to people who are purchasing items through the stream of commerce. that was my recollection. >> i am not sure what your question is. supervisor wiener: that was the concern -- that was a concern that the department had expressed. but today, i am not hearing any kind of specific