it seemed like y'all were preparing all of us for a -- you know, obviously, a rise in the unploi unemployment rate. maybe not 10% yet, but was he surprised to see a drop? >> i don't think anybody feels like they can precisely project where unemployment is going to be, but we did see that. states and localities were hiring more people, were able to keep a lot of folks in their jobs. so certainly we saw that there was some benefit to what the recovery plan was doing. but we do think that there is still a lot more work to do. >> i want to ask you about health care. specifically, these town halls. as you well know, some of these town halls that congressmen and women have been holding around the country have gotten very heated. there's a lot of anger out there. earlier this week, white house press secretary robert gibbs suggested that may be manufactured dissent, kind of a fake protest, con tritrived by interest groups. is that still the white house position? >> certainly, you see there's a lot of organization that's happening from groups from individuals who are personalities on tv shows and radi