we've had unprecedentedmarches. we've had people that are being engaged in ways -- a couple of years we were talking about politica apathy. we just had a midterm election where we had more people voting than ever before. there can be a silver lining to the cloud. i think we have to have the leadership and the moral leadership to make sure that we keep our heads up. >> there seems to be a level of concern now i that higher and more intense. a recent nbc news "wall street journal" poll shows eight of ten americans, 80%, believeun the y is mainly or totally divided. nine out of ten call the political divisions a serious issue. the chasm that's opened up has separated neighbors and families and friends and made for pretty difficult conversations around the dinner table. the question many are wondering is do you see a way back? >> may not a way back, but a way forward. i think the conversations around polarization, there's certain things you can't unsay and there's certain wounds that can't be covered over, and so the ta