tavis: you're told how unpretty you are. >> i wouldn't say unpretty. i would say ugly.hat's what i was told, ugly. tavis: i'm trying to be charitable and generous. when you were told you were ugly, unpretty, that you were not talented, you were told, your parents were told, get her out of 24 class, she has no gift, no talent, she will never make it. >> no spark. that was the big -- tavis: and you stuck with it. >> yeah, i'm tenacious i think, i know. and i also -- i do also have a quality where you tell me i can't do something -- if i know i can't do it, i'm the first to raise my hand and say i can't do that. but there is a big bronx, you know, new york jew in me that just said really? really? you think i -- yes, i can. i can do it. i can do it. and i just -- it just made me fight harder, like i got angry. it did make me angry. i wasn't thrilled about it. but i just thought, i know i can't curse but i did think, screw them, screw them. yeah, i know what i look like, and i know that it's not a model space. i get it. but i think i have a little spark. tavis: but why not,