that is the pride of ownership that is entirely unquantifiable. next i want to address the issue in this hayashi brought up. her comments reviewed to liability insurance and make big speculations. first, she says if he was operating two vehicles at the same time -- that is a huge speculation. the second huge speculation is if he only had an insurance policy that covers one vehicle at the same time. she has not shown that. mr. hollis says that is untrue and he at all times carried to insurance policies. i want to make that clear for the record. commissioner garcia: i do not know if this would flow with the other commissioners, but i am getting a clear picture of this. i am going to swallow that next comment for a second. i think that we should revoke the color scheme, but also think we should suspend the medallion for a year. commissioner fung: i was thinking along the same lines -- suspension of both for one year. president peterson: i support that. vice president goh: i would support a suspension of the medallion one year, but i would not revoke