so the question is do we keep a number of humve, s unrecapitalized to trade in or to turn in as we gain the jltv. and it's a balance. obviously we can -- we would like to upgrade the fleet. we want to be frugal with our resources and do the right thing. so at the moment there's a tradeoff there. the longer we wait, the more need for renewed recap. >> just one last question, mr. chairman, if i could. my preference has always been redirect money for recruiting for you. you decide how to best use liz the money. you see the air guard or army guard on the side of the car. you do that in areas where the potential for recruiting is very high. i don't like to micro manage, but is this instilling a value to you in terms of recruiting and what other gains you may get from it? or is this something that time has come and gone? >> it's really a matter of branding and being associated with a national brand. we do run recruits at sporting events. both motor sports and other sports. people don't necessarily buy tide laundry detergent because of the race car that sports the tide hood. but they do associ

the question is do we keep a number of humvees unrecapitalized to trade in or turn in as we gain the jltb and it's a balance. obviously we can -- we'd like to update the fleet, but we want to be frugal with our resources and do the right thing. at the moment there's a bit of a tradeoff there. the longer we wait, the older the vehicles become and the more need for new vehicles. >> one last quick question. my preference has always been that we direct money for recruiting to you and you decide how best to utilize that money. there have been some efforts i know you're sponsoring indycars and nascars and so forth. you tune in and see the air national guard or air guard or army guard on the side of the car. and you do that in areas i think where the potential for recruiting is very high. i don't like to micro manage and tell you to spend this here and that here. is this still of value to you in terms of recruiting and whatever other gains that you might get from it? or is this something whose time has come and gone? >> senator, it's really a mart of branding. and being associated with a na