that has been sent up here, unredacted and sent up here yesterday, and i just as soon get into that in a classified meeting, but i would say this though, i would say this, he was in that report, that the army did, he was classified as missing slash captive. so he was not charged -- >> i am just trying to verify as i understand it that the administration people have said that it is the haqqani network that e kept him? >> well, the haqqani network did have him through a period of time. this is another complication that over a five-year period, he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him, and knowing where he was. different groups held him and the complication of haqqanis being part of that, that is right. >> and also true that the haqqani network is listed as the state department as a foreign terrorist organization? >> yes, that is true. but we did not negotiate with haqqani. >> okay. i think that is a subject that we will want to discuss if we m must in the classified session, but i think that who held him -- >> i want to make sure that the record is clear on that. we engaged the

that's been sent up here unredacted. sent up here yesterday. i would just as soon get into that in a classified briefing. i would say this though. i would say this. he was in that report that the army did, he was classified as missing/captive. >> i wasn't really focused on the charge. i'm trying to verify as i understand it, administration people have said clearly it was the haqqani network that kept him. >> well, the haqqani network did have him through periods of time. this was another complication over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him and knowing where he was. different groups held him. the complication of the being part of this. we didn't negotiate with haqqani. >> okay. i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss more if we must in the classified session. i think who held him -- >> i want to make sure the record is clear on that. we engaged the qataries and they engaged the taliban. now, if the haqqani were subcontracting to the taliban or whatever that relationship is, you know the pakistan taliban

the tax writing committees get unredacted information to the non-tax writing committees get redacted information so they have about 170,000 pages fewer than information in this committee and senate finance. >> have you seen any evidence of any direct involvement by the white house in the screening of (c)(4) applications that are the subject and evolve in this investigation? >> i have seen none. >> has been any evidence of any white house involvement in the irs is responses to the information requested by this committee? >> i have seen none. >> could you just give us a quick status update on the computer system at the irs, that you encountered when you took over as commissioner of? >> our computer system as i said is somewhat antiquated. we've been updating as much as we can. as noted we have about a billion dollar infrastructure as a result of the budget constraint. we are spinning minimal amounts on that as i noted. we still can get all of the employers on the window seven. i heard a reference earlier someone going to windows 10. we should be so fortunate to get everyone on window s

this committee has noted they've now received more than 770,000 pages of unredacted micheel. we are sending another production to you later today, additional lois lerner e-mails but you already have more than 25,000 e-mails from ms. lerner's computer account and more than 5000 e-mails from other custodians accounts for which wh ms. lerner wasn't also a recipient. the irs expects as noted earlier in my conversation with you to complete its production of the remaining lerner e-mails to this committee by the end of the month. at that time you have all of the e-mails, 43,000 of them, that we have for ms. lummis computer and e-mail account for the period january 2009-may 2013. in addition is no do you have 24,000 lerner e-mails from other custodians accounts during the period that her hard drive was crashed come for a total of 67,000 lerner in this. in the course of respond to congressional requests the irs in february reviewed the e-mail available on ms. lummis custodial computer accounts with and a limited element of a search template worked out with investigators and identify t

that has been sent up here, unredacted. sent up here yesterday. and i just assume to get into that in a classified briefing. >> well, i'm not -- >> i would say this. he was, in that report, that the army did he was classified as missing/captive. >> yes. i wasn't really focused on, trying to verify, as i understand it, administration people have said clearly it was the haqqani network that kept him. >> well the haqqani network did have him through periods of time. this was another complication. over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him. and knowing where he was. different groups held him. so complication of haqqanis being part of this, that's right. >> it is also true that the haqqani network is listed by state department as a foreign terrorist organization. >> that's right. that's right. >> let me turn -- >> we didn't negotiate with haqqani. >> okay. i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss more if we must in the classified session but i think -- >> well, i want to make sure the record is clear on that. we en

that's been sent up here unredacted, sent up here yesterday, and i'd just as soon get into that in a classified hearing, but i would say this, though. i would say this. he was in that report that the army did, he was classified as missing/captive. >> i wasn't really focused on him, i was just trying to verify, as i understand it, administration people have said clearly it was the hakani network that kept him. >> well, the hakani network did have him through periods of time. this was another complication over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him, knowing where he was. different groups held him. so the complication of the hakanis being part of this, that's right. >> and it's also true the hakani network is listed as a foreign terrorist organization. >> that's right. but we didn't negotiate with hakani. >> i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss if we must in the classified discussion -- >> well, i want to make sure the record is clear on that. we engaged the qataris and they engaged the taliban. notic now, if the hakanis were subcontracting to th

this committee has noted they've now received more than 770,000 pages of unredacted micheel. we are sending another production to you later today, additional lois lerner e-mails but you already have more than 25,000 e-mails from ms. lerner's computer account and more than 5000 e-mails from other custodians accounts for which wh ms. lerner wasn't also a recipient. the irs expects as noted earlier in my conversation with you to complete its production of the remaining lerner e-mails to this committee by the end of the month. at that time you have all of the e-mails, 43,000 of them, that we have for ms. lummis computer and e-mail account for the period january 2009-may 2013. in addition is no do you have 24,000 lerner e-mails from other custodians accounts during the period that her hard drive was crashed come for a total of 67,000 lerner in this. in the course of respond to congressional requests the irs in february reviewed the e-mail available on ms. lummis custodial computer accounts with and a limited element of a search template worked out with investigators and identify t

that's been sent up here unredacted, sent up here yesterday, and i would just as soon get into that in a classified -- >> well, i'm not -- >> but i would say this though, i would say this. he was -- in that report that the army did, he was classified asmissing/captive. >> i wasn't focused on -- i'm trying to verify as i understand t administration people have said clearly it was the hakoni network that kept him. >> well, the hakoni network did have him through periods of time. this was another complication. over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him and knowing where he was. different groups held him so it was the complication of the hakoni's being part of this, that's right. >> okay. it's also true the hakoni network is listed as being a foreign terrorist? >> that's right. but we didn't negotiate with hakoni. >> okay. i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss more if we must in the classified session, but i think who held him -- >> i want to make sure the record's clear on that. we engaged the qataris and they engaged the taliban. now if the hakani

that's been sent up here, unredacted. sent up here yesterday. and i just as soon get into that. >> we're going to work through a couple of tough topics here in the few minutes i have with you. it would be helpful to me if you would review concisely as you could the number of people who -- at least within the department of defense were aware of the impending release, up to and until the moment that sergeant bergdahl in fact was released -- or transferred, rather. and then the five detainees were then given over to the representatives from qatar. >> congressman, thank you. i appreciate your comments and thank you for your service. first, i don't have the exact number of individuals within dod who knew about the operation. but here's what i would say. as i've said here this morning, and i mentioned specifically dod, this was ongoing as the days, as you know the timelines here -- essentially i start with about the 21st, and then go down, then 27th, and so on. each day there had to be some more people brought in for -- >> if you could, just out of my

the tax writing committees have received over 535,000 pages of unredacted material. as of last friday, the tax writing committee has had more than 27,000 e-mails from ms. lerner's computer account and more than 18,000 e-mails from other custoedian's accounts for which she was an author or recipient. i understand this committee and the other investigators were provided beginning last fall with copies of e-mails indicating that ms. lerner had experienced difficulties with her computer three years ago. it should be clear no one keeping this information from congress. the irs expected to complete its collection of e-mails by the end of the month. we will complete redaction of the e-mails and produce them to the committee. at that time, this committee will have all the e-mails, 43,000 of them, we have from ms. lerner's account from a period january 2009 to may 2013. in addition, this commission will have 24,000 lerner e-mails from other custoedian accounts. in the course of responding to congressional accounts, the irs in february reviewed the e-mail available from her cu

that's been sent up here, unredacted, sent up here yesterday and i assume get in but i will assified say that, in that report that the army did, he was classified s missing/captive. >> so i wasn't -- to verify as i understand it, administration people have said clearly it was the haqqani network that kept him. >> well, the haqqani did have him through periods of time. this was the complication, over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him. knowing where he was. different groups held him. it's a complication of the haqqanis being part of that, it's right. > and the haqqani network is listed by the foreign intelligence department as a terrorist network. >> that's right. we didn't negotiate with haqqani. >> ok. i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss if we must in the classified session. >> i want to make sure the record's clear. qataris and they engaged the taliban. if the haqqanis were subcontracting with the taliban, you know the pakistan alban and the afghan taliban, there's a difference there. o we get back into definitions of who has responsibi

the nfs was an un -- the information was an unredacted 990 which is our large donors.he i.r.s. but that is private. >> you could tell it was from the i.r.s. by markings on it? >> there was an attempt to cover up the special markings but we had computer guys look at it and they uncovered it and we found these markings that show it clearly came from the i.r.s. >> during your investigation mr. mizell is brought into a deposition and when asked hard questions, he takes the fifth. >> he takes the fifth on questions which involved where did the information come from. that is why at the end of the day because he took the fifth there was no way for us to compel him to tell us who he got it from. >> the person who leaked this confidential information to this guy probably still working at the i.r.s.? >> probably still at the i.r.s. and unless the department of justice and eric holder decide to investigate matthew mizell who has pled the fifth, we're not going to get to the bottom of this. or a special prosecutor. >> eric holder has said in the past i've looked into the lois lern

that's been sent up here unredacted, sent up here yesterday, and i'd just as soon get into that in a classified hearing, but i would say this, though. i would say this. he was in that report that the army did, he was classified as missing/captive. >> i wasn't really focused on him, i was just trying to verify, as i understand it, administration people have said clearly it was the hakani network that kept him. >> well, the hakani network did have him through periods of time. this was another complication over a five-year period he was moved around. we had difficulty finding him, knowing where he was. different groups held him. so the complication of the hakanis being part of this, that's right. >> and it's also true the hakani network is listed as a foreign terrorist organization. >> that's right. but we didn't negotiate with hakani. >> i think that's a subject we'll want to discuss if we must in the classified discussion -- >> well, i want to make sure the record is clear on that. we engaged the qataris and they engaged the taliban. notic now, if the hakanis were subcontracting to th