. >> if italy were to default, it would be absolutely unsalvagable. >> we hear a lot about greece, but what happens if italy goes belly up? >> i disaster to hit it will drag in the united states in a big way. it will not be contained to europe. a lot of the american financial institutions will have a paper affected by italy going down, the french banks and all that. the theory is that because it is such a disaster, it cannot happen. that is the logic of this, that europe, no matter what, might let greece go away, but italy -- whatever gets it necessary, they will prevent that. i am not sure its european central bank can save italy. it has the sense of a slow- motion car wreck, but it is just intolerable for italy. >> i don't think italy is going to go down to it has close to a balanced budget. it has a huge debt, and it has burlesque on a -- berlusconi, which is a big problem the immediate problem is in greece. as we sit here, we don't know what is going to happen in greece. >> can you draw a connection between the wall street protests, spreading across the country, and what is going o