they're unschooled. most of them are just merely lawyers without any financial industry experience. >> kroft: well, if the people there aren't trained in securities work, what are they trained in? >> how to look at pieces of paper that the securities laws require. they can check every piece of paper perfectly and find misdemeanors, and they'll miss all the financial felonies that are occurring because they never look there. even when pointed to fraud, they're incapable of finding fraud. (watch ticking) >> stahl: bernie madoff was committing a massive fraud, one leaving a trail of ruined victims in its wake. >> probably the thing that tears me up more than anything is the fact that i recommended madoff to a number of people. >> kroft: when "60 minutes" on cnbc returns in a moment. >> kroft: when "60 minutes" on cnbc returns in a moment. (watch ticking) i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough.