mind the personal computer is a tool for the money you know he would reference this study unscientific america where they were studying the efficiency of locomotion of every species and human beings ranked about a third of the way down the list and the and it and but the minute you gave a human being a bicycle they went straight to the lists and because if they had this tool and he always saw the personal computer as a tool for the mind any new that he had to make it simple enough concise enough. that anybody could use it that it kid could use it and you know heard a story about him in bringing the macintosh yoko no and i think sean lennon started playing with it and he just watched him play with it to see if he could use it and see if he could actually manipulate it in a way and you watch i watched my seven year old nephew today. play around with an i pad and he could use it perfectly he doesn't he didn't manually doesn't need any instruction and i think that my two and a half a year old to she literally knows have a swipe at wiping her ass seward's there's the adults because they don't they