rescue stranded migrant will only make the problem worse by encouraging them to cut loose even more unsea worthy boats? jon: they tried that in october. they felt it was a pull factor, encouraging people to go. but more people are coming. they're not figuring out am i safe? unsafe? what's the risk? they're just going for it. the center of the chaos now is john: we've got to -- eleanor: excuse me. is libya where we bear some responsibility for the collapse of that society i think the u.s. has responsibility here as well as the e.u. clarence: i'm going to squeeze in very quickly. the european idea of social welfare, they didn't spend on defense, they clearly don't care about these people and they've allowed them to drown. it's a disgrace. that's it. john: issue four -- iran versus the u.s. --shipship? >> the president continues to be concerned about the instability of iran sbeerfering with the freedom of nave igation and the free flow of commercial -- commerce in the gulf of aden. and there are u.s. military resources in the gulf of aden to try to protect those two priorities. john: white h

thousands of people leaving on unsea worthy boats that nobody knows that they have left.they leave their satellite phone works and they are able to call search and rescue services, if not they need to count on being found let me ask you the question again, yes or no would be a good one here, do you have enough boats enough people enough money? >> enough for what. >> saving these lives in. >> you know, everybody is doing everything they can to save people. but as i explained it's a very difficult job because it's a very large area, and a very difficult situation. with boats that -- >> let me put it to you this way, it would be an easier job, even if it is a hard job it would be an easier one if you had more boats more people more money perhaps. >> as i explained before, the search and rescuers responsibility is with the national authorities not with frontex. we are there to assist the national authorities. >> so you believe you are in a helpless hopeless position when it comes to this? do you have enough power? would you like more? >> this is one of the largest operations.

situation in niger, destroying the boats used by traffickers in the mediterranean which are often un unsea worthy or illegal. to give more support to the tritan efforts and the migrant wave says kit no longer cope says it can no longer cope on its own. >> it's a problem to help europe not a european problem and an italian answer. >> mare knows trum wasmare nostrum was closed down last year. italy receives more asylum seekers than any other country. and while ministers say the welfare of migrants is important they also say solutions need to be found in the countries the migrants are leaving. >> translator: our very first priority has to be improving sea rescue operations, so fewer people die. that is obvious. secondly, we know that the push back to migration will not let up as long as conditions in north africa remain unstable. >> reporter: if anything long term is to be achieved both of these problems will need to be solved at the eu leaders summit on thursday. dominic kane, al jazeera luxembourg. >> the mare nostrum that was referenced in that report was an italian rescue operation that e

these vessels set sail, set to sea from libya and they are unsea worthy, and they sink fairly rapidly and there are no survivors. so the estimates are inevitably going to be lower than the real figures. the coast guard behind me, which arrived brought the survivors from a series of vessels that have been intercepted nearly 600 was 592 people who came off the vessel behind me some looked excited to reach land, and others with a little bit shocked but they are the lucky ones because as you say, there are hundreds more that will set out and try to make a journey and never complete it. >> just one batch and then we got 10,000, and then another 1,000, so each one of those people need somewhere to sleep, each one needs food, each one needs reet isling. how do they cope in italy. >> well, it's very difficult. a lot of it depends on the original country of origin of the migrants who are coming here. when you consider some of the syrian highn't grays for example, i am told that they very often turn up with a little bit of money to get them started. perhaps not a lot but sufficient to see them

libya where they are often smuggled from destroying the boats used by trafficics in the mediterranean unsea illegal to give money to the triton operation and get member states to share responsibility for the resettlement and relocation of refugees. because the country that has born the brunt of the migrant wave says it can no longer cope on its own. >> european emergency so it's not the problem to help italy, it's a problem to help europe. you can't have european emergency and italian answer. >> reporter: that is a reference to italy operation which cost more than $100 million during the 12 months it ran for and which was closed down last year. many of the migrants crossing the mediterranean want to reach germany and received more asylum seekers than any eu county and says the welfare of migrants is important they also say solutions need to be found in the countries, the migrants are leaving. >> translator: our very first priority has to be improving sea rescue operations so fewer people die. that is obvious. secondly we know that the push factor of migration will not let up as long as cond

towards the coast of libya and then the migrants had to transfer to a different fishing boat even more unseas one. this is a tactic that officials say is being used by people smugglers to try to keep the authorities off their tracks. but the migrants that were on those boats said they didn't have adequate food and water. the good news is, of course, that these ones all reached italy alive, escaping civil war in sir why as you can imagine poverty. a picture that is repeated across the board, wolf. >> i understand karl there were more rescues at sea today. what do we know about those? >> hour by hour you just get the impression that this migrant crisis is escalating. this morning as you point out, we saw 446 migrants being brought ashore on the italian mainland this afternoon, another rescue bringing 500 migrants ashore and now as night falls, we're awaiting the arrival of more than 200 other migrants all in a day over 1,000 migrants arriving on italian shores. that is a huge tide of humanity being pushed towards the shores of europe wolf. >> certainly is. it's so so dangerous. all right. karl

but at this point, almost 24 hours since that first sos went out from this very unsea worthy boat. the chances of survivors diminishing by the hour. what is interesting, we just received a statement from the prosecutor's office here incalityin cality tan cat tanya in sitly, saying they have questioned one of the survivors from the boat from bangladesh. he says as many as 950 people may have been crammed i don't to this bolt. 200 are women, 40 to 50 were children. according the statement, some of the people in the lower decks were locked inside the decks, they weren't able to escape even if they knew the ship was in danger. and this really underscores just the brute tallity of the human traffickers. the boat went down when the people on board saw a portuguese merchant vessel passing nearby. they felt they were coming to their rescue. so many of them went to the side of the ship to signal to wave to the ship and this caused the ship to capsize. so it's not quite clear how many people were on board the ship when it capsized but clearly talking about hundreds and hundreds of people on