t extremely unseemingly. it's a problematic thing. i think congress could change some of the rule and eliminate some. >> that statute applies to justices, by the way, section 455. whatever the judicial conference can do the statute does apply. they get the final word on it. >> before i open it up to general question, i want to -- just ask each of you to answer one or two questions. neil, you talked about the imagine -- majesty of the court and the uniquenesses of the supreme court, and the justices, when asked about these issues often put it in term of the sort of supreme court exceptionalism that the court is uniquely apolitical, unelected, unlike any other court and unlike any branch or level of government and the justicings say, you know, we have a unique court and don't want to mess it up. .. >> that's what the supreme court is about the ability to do something like that against popular sentiment ideas the we should be really careful when we start imposing solutions of them i do agree with certain personalities with cameras in the