it seems so unserious. immature and cynical. >> but it is possible.t is possible that harry reid is right. that romney did not pay taxes. we don't know. >> laura: kathy. >> he did not pay taxes. you're repeating something on national television -- >> it's possible. >> laura: you just say it is true, romney did not pay tax. >> i'm sorry. >> laura: you're doing the same dirty work that harry reid was. i'm going to have to withdraw my comment what a great person you are. come on, you're better than that. >> come on. it is true. it is possible he did not pay -- >> laura: okay. >> we don't know. >> laura: by that argument, it is possible that mitt romney -- i'm going to make -- barak obama applied to colombia university as a foreign exchange student. it is possible. it's possible. we don't have the records. it is possible he failed eci 101, it's possible. he didn't release his grades. it's ridiculous. >> we have a man here who is trying to say he is going to be of the people, he understands the people. but this is a guy who may not have paid taxes while th

his last two budgets were so unserious, they have had three votes in congress, the total vote tally, 0-610. they have been so unserious, not a member of president obama's own party have given them their vote. i tell people that in wisconsin, it doesn't get enough play nationally, they are astonished by the fact that we are the largest financial entity in the world and we are operating without a budget. the senate, controlled by democrats, haven't passed a budge net three years. so, paul ryan, mitt romney will bring leadership to the table where this president and the democrats and the senate have totally abdicated their responsibility shown leadership. >> early in our 9 a.m. hour, we talked to david axelrod, i think you can imagine, obviously, that the obama people are saying this is a radical choice here. this is a ticket out of step with the mainstream america. i want too show our viewing audience a pilot poll we did a -- sorry, a poll we did on tea party support. the question was do you consider yourself a supporter of the tea party movement? yes, 25%. no, 65%. so, the question he

simply is not put forward any solutions to save social security or medicare and his budgets are so unseriousy haven't garnered a single vote from members of his own party. this is an outstanding pick and i think paul ryan perfectly compliments governor romney in terms of his skill set. governor romney is from the private sector and understands how and what made america great and paul is steeped in policy and can craft legislation and get it passed through congress. >> one of the knockos mitt romney is he's talking too much in generalities and fun stuff of how to fix the economy. and not too long ago . does this add a lot of substance to the economic plan and do you think that the ryan budget becomes the romney campaign budget? >> i don't agree with the first statement. governor romney has been laying out a vision for america and that's what the election is about. choice of the path of about the obama takes us on and where he believe that is government creates jobs and versus governor romney's vision of it is an private sector and so, you know, the fact of the matter is, legislation will be c

he's showing how this is completely unserious as a means of deficit reduction, and he's doing a pretty effective job, no? >> i understand why michael isn't into the details of this. if he got into the details of the romney plan, it would be as vulnerable and difficult as the details hidden in the tax returns. secondly, there's a mythology here, by the way, if you cut taxes, capital gains taxes, marginal tax rates for the wealthy, somehow or another, that's the engine of job creation. this is a lie, calling the wealthiest people in the country the job creators. under bill clinton, we had a slightly higher capital gains tax rate and we created 22 million jobs. the largest number of jobs created in any eight year period in american history. why don't we go back to fundamental tax fairness and make the wealthy pay their fair share and we'll be well off, and most of that $4 trillion figure michael cites is a result of the bush economic collapse. >> you want to respond to that? >> i do. wrong answer, it's not the result of the bush economic collapse. >> it sure is. everybody lost their jobs.

so unserious when we face financial calamity -- >> look, you know those are legislative games. >> so you're saying the president's budget is not serious. that's the point i'm making. we need leadership and that's what paul ryan and governor romney bring to the table. they're actually going to lead on these issues. >> i want to ask you a specific question. something that mitt romney said yesterday on fox about this idea of how personal does he need to get. he gave an interesting answer which i think you might agree with. here's what he said. >> all i can do is be who i am. remember that popeye line, i am what i am and that's all what i am. and i'm doing my very best to get this country back on track. >> senator, you were a first time politician when you ran. i assume you had plenty of consultants who said, hey, tell more personal stories about yourself. you didn't do that as much. you think that mitt romney's getting sort of conflicting advice here? >> listen. what governor romney needs to do on thursday is reveal who he is as an individual. a phenomenal family man, somebody who puts

his last two budgets, gwen, were so unserious. party won't vote for it. i really do believe when the american people come to understand that, they will come to the conclusion that we simply can't afford four more years of president obama's failed leadership. >> senator, one of the things we've been discussing tonight is whether or not, in fact, for the last several night, is whether or not governor romney needs to open up more about who he is. just a short time ago former senator rick santorum joined us. he sat right where you sat, and he said governor romney really does need to tell the american people more about who he is and about his life story so that there's more of a connection. do you think that's important, or do you think the economy is such an overriding issue that it really doesn't matter whether people feel more of a connection with him? >> the wonderful thing about these convention, and this is my first one, but i've been watching, it gives the nominees a chance to speak to tens of millions of americans without any f

an abdication of leadership, you have the fiscal calamity, the president puts forward a plan so unserious his own party would give it a vote. we've got some serious problems but we've got a chance to turn that around this november. >> well, we do and we've got europe playing out right before our eyes, and we know about our entitlements here, and the election being waged on both sides, it just seems like all were focused on one side the rich people have too much and we got to make sure that the level of the playing field, and the other side just seems about to talk about how the president hasn't been able to do anything about the unemployment rate and we're not getting anywhere. >> joe, one of the reasons i was so pleased about the pick paul ryan is you don't pick paul ryan as your vice presidential running mate if you're not serious about solving the problem. >> you got to get in and solve the problem. people worry about elderly people and florida now, you know they're going to demagogue and say they're going to lose your medicare and grandma getting pushed off a cliff. we had trump sayin

. >> the president of the united states, the leader of this nation, puts forward plans to unserious notit a vote. we've got some serious problems, but we got a chance to turn that around this november. >>> the pick of ryan cements the fact that the president, governor romney, is going to take on the tough issues that this nation needs to deal with. >>> ibm to acquire kenexa. add that on top of dollar thrifty and hertz. >> merger monday. >> yeah. >>> the "time"s today with a big piece about how back to school is not exactly shaping up to be gang busters. kids only want what's exceptionally cool. >> guess what's different. what's exceptionally cool are the i pods, i pads. there's more of a desire to buy those damagadgets. that's crowding out some of the other spend. >>> earnings were lighter than expected, lighter than street numbers. sales did decline. it could have been a lot worse. the market's basically saying we're probably now through the most difficult time for tiffany. still not out of the woods. there's light at the end of the tunnel here. >>> from apple's standpoint, you know, c

it's taking unseriously. it's not a vote-moving until you stay for ten years. then it becomes a vote-moving issue. you saw independents and republicans poll not enthews yaysic for staying in iraq and afghanistan. my point is presidents have tremendous leeway. you the economy is growing? okay. you stay in grenada for a long period of time? so it's just not like other issues. it's very different and you think since we're the most powerful nation in the world we'd treat it more seriously than we do. our politics doesn't drive us to a seriousness about the subject that it does in other areas. that is interesting with it's not unimportant. it's particularly. important. you can see both sides can be foror against the wars. everybody gets tired when they last too long. you're not sure what the point is. it's not being articulated what the point. >> let me say from the record [inaudible] came from the "washington post." thank you ej. justin? >> thank you. thank you very much for your talk. you mentioned a couple times. >> identified yourself. >> justin logan from the c