so chambers set up his own polling site unskewed polls.com where he unskewed all the national polls by skewing them in favor of romney, and surprisingly found that mitt actually had a nearly 8 point lead. that doesn't even count the margin of error. and given how many errors romney's made, i think he should get all of it. now no surprise, folks, this feels accurate polling has caught the attention of some gop intellectuals like texas governor rick perry who tweeted, always niles to get unfiltered or in this case unskewed information. amen. if we had only had more accurate polling during the primaries, perry could have dropped out way sooner. (applause) and so-- (laughter) folks, chambers' work throws all polls into doubt now. even the internal ones i've taken of myself. i mean the results say i'm not that excited about mitt romney but as a conservative i feel like i should love him. maybe the sample size is too small or maybe i checked the wrong box and i'm actually latino, you know. thankfully, fox news is fighting back with its own fair and balanced polling. >> we asked you tonight w

the new argument on the right is thatf you recoigurl th mainstream polls to unskew if i them to make them be less liberal, they don't look like this anymore with 20 straight polls for obama. instead they look like this. hey, yeah, that's way better. mitt romney is actually winning all ofhe recentls t tht president obama was winning. the guy who did this it neat trick, the unskewing of the polling so mitt romney wins in every one instead of losing in every one, that guy explained his methodology tohe folks at buzz feed saying he created this new romney-always-wins polling site, quote, after reading a "washington post" poll that just didn't look right noting that the polling had sampled more democrats than republicans. sampling more democrats than republicans. , thatou l reasonable argument. everybody might have reason to be suspicious of the polls showing president obama lead in if, in fact, pollsters are systemicallyversampling democrats when doing their polling. that's not what pollsters are doing. they are not going out and inr maoc for their polls in order to fill some quota to ge

so dean chambers runs a site called unskewed polls, and that sight specializes in the long-lost art ofkewing. his polls show that romney is actually ahead. how does he do it? he discounts the factors that legitimate pollsters take into account, sample size and cell phone bias and then reweights the polls so they have the same proportion of republicans and democrats exactly. even though in the real world there are more democrats than republicans and that's how you get an accurate poll. now chambers told buzzfeed that he created the site after seeing a poll that he just thought didn't look right. and then according to the calculations none of the other polls out there were right either. why? because of that liberal media bias of course. this is what he said . . . >> jennifer: any poll. that sounds scientific reasoning. remember einstein's e-equals 911 was an inside job. but now republican voters are buying into that reality. a romney supporter ecoed that same nonsense. >> jennifer: he is going to carry virginia in a landslide. okay. not everybody right-winger is on board with that crazy

>> if you are curious, go to unskewed polls.com an attempt to rate the polls.ox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to hear tightening of the race and that is because the media wants to generated ratings or because there is a guilt on the mainstream media, maybe we should be covering this a little more fairly than we have bon been. you are shaking your head no? >> i do think media polls can be a little skewed. i have a friend that used to do it. ding, it's been cooked and here is what you wanted. the thing is, there is bias but it's evenly split. some are weighted towards republicans and some are weighted towards democra

the guy who did this it neat trick, the unskewing of the polling so mitt romney wins in every one instead of losing in every one, that guy explained his methodology to the folks at buzz feed saying he created is new romney-always-wins polling site, quote, after reading a "washington post" poll that just didn't look right noting that the polling had sampled more democrats than republicans. sampling more democrats th republicans. hm, that sounds like a reasonable argument. everybody might have reason to be suspicious of the polls showing president obama leading if, in fact, pollsters are systemically oversampling democrats when doing their polling. that's not what pollsters are doing. they are n going out and inr maemts for their polls in order to fill some quota to get the liberal result they want. pollsters polling the swing states are finding more people calling themselves democrats in those swing states because there emes democrats in the swing states. it's not a biassed look at the states. it's a look at the states that show the states have a democratic bias. that's why president obama

. >> if you're curious for another take, unskewed polls.com, a way to reweight the polls-- the fox newsnd suggests romney it down. and one who was not a-- and a pollster for gary hart and so on, he wrote in great part, what the media are doing are newspapers are supposed to be broke, instead spending money on polls in virginia, ohio and florida where obama clearly is clobbering romney in terms of television buys, you're down 8 points in ohio must be losing nationwide. it's not wrong, but it's obviously to suggest that romney is a goner. >> rick: kirsten, do you agree we'll hear stories about a tightening of the race because the media want to generate ratings and sell newspapers and magazines or perhaps a guilt on part of the mainstream media maybe we should be covering this a little bit more fairly than we have been? >>pist-- i think that sometimes media polls can be a little cooked. i have a friend, he used to do it for one of the media organizations and used to say, ding, here, it's been cooked, here is what you wanted. but the thing is, nate silver did a good analysis of the polls th

i think what i thought when i saw the unskewed polls.com site, this is really embarrassing. this is like normal people escaping to the shelter of this poll, the site went up a week ago. when we put up posts about it, we were getting tons of search hits for it. so there's this huge thirst. as you said, i remember during past elections, every losing candidate has had this. the hillary voters in the 2008 primary had their own circle. they were convinced that the support for obama was way overstated. you were totally right about 2004, the 2002. like every election this happens, but the weird how this really happened in the last week was kind of remarkable. >> isn't this -- i think this is sort of a subset of a larger trend on the right? it's been going on for a really long time. there's a sort of combination of self-pity and sort of feeding the idea that they are victims of this massive conspiracy by the left to lie about everything and that they are truly the majority. i've been calling it the fun house mirror. i love your characterization of it even more. but there is this not

best story of the week really besides the sam jackson making an awesome ad about voting is this unskewedhave you heard about this, this website where became people on the right have been allowed to leave the planet -- >> like the bubble. >> they have entered the bubble and sealed it. if you reweight the polls where there are many more republicans than democrats and you live on a different planet, mitt romney is winning, he's way ahead, he has no gas. it's beautiful. it's a wonderful reality. i think mitt has decided to enter into that unreality because it's much happier there. >> dr. peterson, you don't really need to read the polls to know what's happening, do you? because rick santorum and virginia governor bob mcdonald are going to iowa, and chris christie and scott walker are in new hampshire, but they're not there to campaign for mitt romney, are they? >> no, they're not. they're there preparing for 2016, which is probably the republican party's best bet at this point. but this is really interesting. i think that the folk on the right who are scared about this are actually right, th

there's even a website called unskewed polls.com that takes all those same polls that show presidentma leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind is it simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. in 2000, al gore said don't believe the polls, polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political con

but there's also a web site on the right side of the political spectrum called unskewed polls that makes argument that-- and there's always arguments about this in polling, some gets down in the weeds, but that romney is ahead. i would just say that some of these polls may indeed be off but there's so many polls now that show the president not just with a lead nationally but as much as a nine or ten point lead in swing states. they'd all have to be off by a lot for that to be a significant factor. >> it's another whole conversation going on there about the polls. normally people feel pretty helpless. this is a way to talk about it. >> brown: >> and a way to get that message forward. because i think that what happens in presidential campaigns is that when the polls are down people are less likely to vote for that candidate. >> they're worried about dampening enthusiasms. it's still early in the polls. if it appears mitt romney is falling behind in this race. >> woodruff: lauren ashburn, howard kurtz, thank youoth very much. and howard and lauren will be back next week the day after the fi

that republicans don't like polls so they're going to create a new methodology in the website that unskews remarkable. something all americans are doing. if you look at the polls and ask people how the economy are doing. democrats say great, republicans say it's doing terribly, politics there is trumping and lived experience of the economy, pretty remarkable. >> i want to bring in an old and sort of strongly held beleaf among conservatives that rick santorum voiced talking about who's on their side. >> we will never have the media on our side. ever in this country. we will never have the elite, smart people on our side. because they believe they should have the power to tell you what to do. >> i love this. the elite smart people, the last time i checked, run a lot of companies because they're elite and many cases because they are smart and good at certain things and what mitt romney referred to as the 1% recently in his tax discussion and what santorum is talking about are elites who contribute and control a lot of the debate, right? >> well, so what i see here, both with the polls can mak

if you unskew it, mr. gretchen: i don't really know how pollsters get away with doing it this way. why don't you just do it even or just poll independents 'cause they're going to determine this election as they do every other one. if you look how independents are fairing right north texas the last count, they were up 14% for mitt romney. so maybe you should look a little bit deeper into the numbers. the problem is that the media takes this poll and they run with it. what effect does that have on the american psyche and the mood in our society when that is what you hear for a solid week? >> brian: meanwhile, talk more about the polls. remember it was a weeking what it seemed as though david axelrod when on a problem with the gallup poll and he tweeted out that he has an issue with gallup poll and the methodology behind it and he is unof the chief architects of the 08 win and wants to make it a repeat. >> steve: this was a poll taken by gallup in april. and what he did, some say he was trying to intimidate g

a new website, unskewed polls.led poll truthers and it's among the erick erickson hugh hue wet, dick morris insisted if the election was held today, romney would win by four or five points. >> yeah, that was the guy who predicted hilary versus condy. >> i don't agree, so it must be wrong. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh said the polls are the replacement refs. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> what? >> stephanie: and sean hannity also accused this media of cooking the numbers. >> these liberal pollsters polling people who have cell phones and not land lines. but we get complaisant, every time we say obama has it in the bag, ten democrats stay home. >> stephanie: no, don't stay home. >> get out and vote. >> stephanie: all right. back with more fridays with fugelsang on the "stephanie miller show." >> romney: i love it. it's a fabulous program. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ what the current audience can expect from my show is the unexpected. >>stephanie miller challenges the system, now it's your turn. >>it'