. >> yeah, they were very unsophisticateded, i think when we -- when we went in 2001.ally better than the opposition at that time, but not -- not very good. i did a study for -- for the government in 2004 about the future of the taliban, and they -- the conclusion i reached was the biggest enabler of the taliban was the karzai government for reasons we just heard. the corruption -- >> so do you have much optimism going forward after mr. karzai leaves office? >> you know, i -- the question is whether or not mr. karzai will still do what putin did in russia and rule by surrogate, and i think that's a big question. probably better asked at another time, but i -- i think -- to be honest with you i think afghanistan in the future is going to look an awful lot like china in the 1930s before mou showed up, the government controlling the cities and major urban areas, war lords in the northwest >> at each others throats -- >> yes, and making money and doing what war lords do. and then along what is called the duran line that separates the [ inaudible ] from the pakistani and af