there's an unstream program the state has with the utilities, sometimes you find them for 50 cents or a dollars. >> there were a couple of issues raised one is that the they don't work with dimmers. >> dimmers, there are dimmable compact floresents you need to contact the lighting special shops in san francisco. there are a number of them if you look up in the yellow pages, i will not mention one. and talk to them about it and they will be able to provide you with a dimmable compact floresent. they do cost more. i still have compact floresents using in my house they installed 10 years ago. >> others raised the issue that the quality of light is not the familiar incan densent spectrum we are used to. >> it's very close. typically they are being made at 2700 degrees. that's a color not really a color, like a color temperature you can think of this that way. 2700 is pretty similar to your standard incandesant light bulk. you can get them higher temperatures that makes them whiter. the special shops you can get in in yellow, or orange or green e. >> question, do you wait until the light b