buzz feed simply dumped that document with the allegations, they did say it was unsubstantia report similar things, and saying they were still looking into this is this good journalism. does the public and donald trump have a right to be angry about how this was handled >> short answer is no, the main responsibility of a journalist is to make sure that the information that they put out into the world is accurate and thoroughly reported. putting out documents is not really living up to that standard. i think buzz feed put up a disclaimer and followed with a comprehensive story. we want hope when journalists are putting out information they will be able to tell the public if this information is accurate or not. whether donald trump and the president-elect can, you know, can be angry about it, you know, it's within his right, obviously, these documents are being, you know, passed around, you know, some of the highest officials in the us government. so it is something that's probably in the pu so, you know, he has a right to be angry, but, there is maybe, you know, some room here where the publ

and despite that information being completely unsubstantia unsubstantiated, it did become a major issue. a sunday op-ed puts it this way. the dossier has zero public evidence behind it and should be treated with skepticism. but it reflects an unprecedented uncertainty. there's a disorienting kernel of doubt about we can trust the man who will occupy the oval office. is the new president a russian poodle? so nice to have you on. >> good to be with you. >> you asked that question. but when you read the entire opinion piece, it's not because you think the dossier with these embarrassing allegations is in any way based in fact. it is to this point unsubstantiated, as we know. your argument is the american public needs to look more at the facts that are undies puted. you think we're not focusing enough on that. >> sure. there are these arguments in the dossier. we don't know it if they are true. there are some concerning signs. what i'm told by my source is the intelligence community would not have decided unanimously to brief the president and the president-elect on these allegations if if

you know, these are unsubstantia unsubstantiated, kwon what you guys on nbc are going to do or who leakedeed to move away from them. so in a way when he wihines abot what was said about him, i think he kind of has a point. i think he's got a point. >> what about rex tillerson? facing a grilling right now as we speak and live pictures right now. still up on capitol hill. seems like he's probably going to make it through, i would think, based on our reporters who are there covering it, but there've been a lot of questions of him today. >> the big question is one his relationship with russia. is he too close to putin? i think he's going to have some problems when he answered that question about mandatory sanctions to senator rubio. when he wouldn't get pinned down. and i remember when i was going through confirmations. what you are told by your briefers is, get flexibility. don't commit to the congress that -- >> about yourself. >> yeah. that you're going to not be flexible. you want flexibility. he did pretty good. i must say, i listened to his questions, he didn't look like he was taking n