i was an untenured associates so i liked that but actually, more important is that george had spent just by chance a year visiting and we became friends and i think in the fall of that year i started in 68 in august or something and that was the year when nixon was elected and had appointed before the election but he was heading the committee on antitrust policy and george put me on a committee that he organized and i met the distinguished economists that were on the committee along with some of the faculty. so i got to know the chicago economists and it made the move attractive. i only spend a year in california and have a feel for the state but didn't feel any kind of commitment to it. >> what made you decide to write a biography? >> i had read the biography that i think came out in 2012 and it was a good book about he didn't have access. this is a whole generation so to speak that passed on so he made the best of it but i thought what people want to know about is what they were like when they were younger so i approached him and asked if he would cooperate and to that end two or three