you work long enough in the industry and start hearing of scripts people love that are untillummable,ever get made and this was one of those. when i had an opportunity to read it and they were looking for a director and a way to bring it back up again, you sort of start reading this and thinking, oh i was familiar with an experiment but on a surface level. i had never taken a psychology class. i was loosely familiar. i thought, a lot of it must have been embellished. i finished reading the research and i thought, this happened down to the things you're describing with your girlfriend, now at the time, your wife, and now into the movie. i wanted to create a film where you were watching it and make it believable but sort of questioning how much of this could really have happened. the story is so profound and so -- has stayed within our culture for so long for a reason that made a film that did that justice that said we don't need to embellish around it. we need to make a cinema but we can make a film. >> rose: was it the story or the character that interested you the most? >> the story,