with m--i'm--i'm terrible, absolutely terrible at ti--titles, so bad that i--i will send in pieces untitled because i know whatever they come up with's going to be usually better than--than me, and this--this was no different and so, you know, one night they simply were talking about it. i had gone out, actually, to hear some jazz, and i came back and they had this title. and i didn't think it would work. i thought it would be terrible. but then a few days passed, a little time, and i--i bounced it around with--with my editor and so forth, and--and we--we really decided that was absolutely the best--best title we could--could have for this book. and i--i really am happy--happy with it now. c-span: all right. again, back to the person in the audience that's listening and lives in california and says, 'the preference is out the window.' >> guest: mm-hmm. c-span: 'can't use the preferences in colleges anymore.' >> guest: right. c-span: the supposed number of blacks in schools went down... >> guest: yes. c-span: ... percentage went down. >> guest: dramatically. c-span: what is your advice when