testimony in this committee that families and investors will continue to be weary of the housing market untlhe bottom can be found. has the mortgage market finally hit bottom? >> it's difficult to know. and we've had false dawns before. but the recent district attorney had been mildly encouraging. we have seen demand fairly stable now for some months in terms of housing. we have seen some increase, actually, in construction and permits. the data on house prices, there are a number of different series, they don't always agree, but there seems to be at least, for the moment, seems to be some leveling off in house prices. and, of course, in part because of the federal reserve's actions, mortgage rates are a good bit lower than they were last fall. and, indeed, housing affordability right now is the highest it's been in many, many years. so there are some positive indicators in the housing front. that being said, we still also have problems of foreclosures coming on the market, which will put downward pressure on prices. and so we can't get guarantee by any means that the price declines are over