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so will the wisconsin story ange the cpaign, the untr for more, we turn to craig gilbert of the "milwaukee journal sentinel" and susan page, washington bureau chief of "usa today." so craig gilbert, we've talked about this before, now you can tell us the answer. how did scott walker do it? >> well, ironically, as polarized as wisconsin, is i think charles franklin is right. there is a middle, there are ticket-splitters, there are swing voters. those obama/walker supporters we see in the exit polls, which is about 10% of the people that voted tuesday really symbolize that group and scott walker w that battle. so it's... everybody is not in one of these two armed camps. not to down play it at all. but this will come into play in november in the battle for wisconsin in the presidential race. president obama has a narrow lead right now in the polling but, you know, he has to close the deal with these pragmatic voters that are not voting on ideology, they're voting on performance and they're voting on optimism, pessimism and the economy. >> ifill: craig, was the margin of victory a surprise to

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