with this supply chain risk management problem, the federal government still continues to buy from untrusted sources. here's a culture of across the government of cost and schedule across the departments and agencies where in order to save five cents on a widget we're buying low cost, low bid, and then we end up in a gray market and we wonder why we have counterfeit or malicious products in our government's supply chain. we should be buying from trusted sources. if there's some reason why we are not going to buy from trusted sources there should be a justification that should be public and the liability should accrue to whoever the inquirer is. >> can you just comment on that as well? >> i do agree some. i also add that we look at the supply chain and issue of your product integrity. we do rigorous testing on acquisition of any product. we would also believe in leveraging some of the existing standards to focus on a product integrity issue. what you want to know is did that widget you bought is it exactly what you think you bought. that's the hard of the issue. rigorous testing and expanding

why are we so untrusting. >> reporter: for good reason.get and us heading over the cliff. the media has bias, and you should trust me i would like to say, we try to go back and forth between each side to get to the truth. but i have confirmation bias. if it's from somebody i like, i tend to believe it. if it's something i have seen and remembered, i believe it. people think there is more violence on the night of the fool moon and more babies are born. nosed, it's just not true. but people hear the sirens and they notice if the full moon and they remember that. go to an emergency room, ask the cops and nurses they will tell you there is more action, but there isn't. that is confirmation bias. that's what we are tackling this week. alisyn: let's take a look. >> these guys will spend $3.80s trillion of our money. don't we have to trust them? i'm aassured when they say ... >> we agreed to $2 trillion in cuts and savings. >> great, but is it true? and how would we know? how gone through the piles of paper. turns out they want to spend more to s

with this supply chain risk management problem, the federal government still continues to buy from untrusted sources. there's a culture across the government of costing schedule across the departments and agencies where in order to save five cents on the widget, we buy low cost, low bid, end up in the gray market, and we wonld every why we have -- wonder why we have malicious products in the government's supply chain. we have to buy from trusted sources. if there's a reason we're not, there should be a justification, it should be public, and the reliability should accrue to whoever the inquirers is. >> dr. schnek, can you comment on that as well? >> i do agree with phil, and i'll add we look at supply chains as an issue of the product integrity. we would also believe in leveraging existing standards to focus on a product integrity issue because you want to know if the widget you bought exactly what you think you bought? that's the heart of the issue of rigorous testing and the standards. >> if we are at risk if we integrate into the u.s. system non-trusted sources of product? >> i think it i

we are announcing timetables, withdrawal and we're negotiating with a very untrust worthy enemy. >> you'reavy seal and wrote an editorial on "the wall street journal" at which time you think all the so-called publicity the navy seals are getting are detrimental to the mission in the future and in the past. you do not like what's happening here and that is from the bin laden raid to the other raid that happened two weeks ago. >> well, the problem is that is our classified secrets need to remain secret. when we release that information out to the public, our enemies have that information. it puts the guys who -- the brave warriors who go out and conduct these missions in greater harm's way. it risks future successes and it seriously damages our collection capability. >> you quote admiral mccraven, your top special operations commander and he says operation security, maintaining secrecy is paramount and he goes on to say, too, that what about the informants that help you out? that pakistani doctor that got behind the bin laden walls and able to get the d.n.a. that guy is now under arrest beca