the armed services will have unuh till january 1st to submit plans to make the change, the marine corps had argued that women should be excluded from certain roles siting studies that show mixed gender units aren't as effective as all male ones. that requires drawing strength from the broadest possible pool of talent. >> this includes women, because they make over -- up over 50% of the american population. joining us live by skype, from park city in the u.s.a. of utah chest a former army officer and served on the defense advisory committee on women in the services. thank you very much for speaking to us. as you were saying you have served tell us about what decision means to you personally. >> all rolls all jobs, so a much broader wider talent pool. the select anyone who meets the standards that have been set. s what about the issues continuing to have some women because of the physical demands will this decision by largely symbolic. >> no, i don't think will it be symbolic at all. the decision was actually a decision made in 2013 by then secretary of defense leon, and chairman in the j