. >> michael, he was unven unconventional.ver really grew up even though he was a fantastic businessman and incredibly successful. you always got the feeling he wanted to be in a childlike world. it was like a security blanket for him in many ways. is that how you felt? >> you know, michael, he was one of my younger children. and his brothers had children. so he grew up also with them. he grew up playing all the time. he grew into an adult and he'd come over and still play hide and go seek with them and everything. and he did neverland, he did it for children. and also i imagine he did it for himself because he didn't get a chance to go to those theme parks like other children did. and he would have bus loads of children, school classes, children that even in his theater he had two beds, two hospital beds and he would have the sick children to come and watch movies and rides and things like that. and the children that was bedridden, he made sure that he had a place for them. so they can see the movies or have shows on the stag