what i hook for when i am watching -- that is what i look for as a film lover and looking for unwatchedness which is why i love documentaries. >> rose: explain what that means, unwatched. >> just daschle it is a trick, you know, that it is so different from the energy of the theatre, for example, where the whole point is that you are in a room with however many hundred people or maybe ten, but the camera is there, not like here where it is there, but it is there, it is looking at your every pore and you have to remain open to it, remain relaxed to it, remain engaged to what you are doing, remain spontaneous, all of those things we have been talking about actually, remain old, remain open and free and relaxed and up for it and it is very difficult, particularly if you are as most of us are shy and inclined to put up some kind of carapace, fortunately, i don't have -- i don't know about the training of proper actors and i think there are all sorts of trainings that one can go through. i have not ever had that, so i am slightly rough specimen in front of a camera but that is my aim to try to l