it feels way too unwilding at this point and i understand the challenges of the mayor's schedule and all of our schedules and being present at these meetings but be sure there is clear directive and direction and accountability and every time we hear of a another schedule or budget slip or not met there isn't seem to be any consequences and that's what i find most troubling. >> i don't think supervisor we want to be punitive with departments in all cases. it wouldn't lead to future success on projects, so there are ways in which we can exert control through the cio review process, through budgeting, through approval of positions, and we're working on that, and we certainly take that authority seriously but are not sure that being punitive is always the way to go. >> which i appreciate as well. i understand how you don't necessarily want to punish departments that aren't doing the right thing, but i don't see incentives also for anyone to be shooting for higher goals, so again i don't know what will push the bureaucracy to change its culture in that five years we're not here and someo