you happen to work for upi or ap. and it starts with another -- it's interesting that so many of these i hadn't realized what i was doing. were about women who were saying this. just more interesting of how about that. washington star, which had once been the paper of record here, ceased publication on august 7, 1981. and this is what roberta draper said. aside from my husband's death, the day the washington star folded was the worst day of my life. i had no notice. my boss called at 6:00 a.m. to tell me so i wouldn't hear it on the radio. so i walked to the kitchen and made myself a manhattan. i thought, how many times do you have a death in the family? it was intense. i had been there since 1957. i started out as a copy boy. it was other wonderful place to work, even though it was conservative because they gave reporters absolute free rein. no one told you what you had to do. she then says a friend from nbc called with a job offer. i became anywhere senate producer which is a euphemism for off camera. i did al the t

taken during the war was that the wire services -- in other words, ap and upi who transmitted their photographs through the air -- more or less they couldn't use color. or at least, it took much longer to transmit color photographs, so they always shot in black and white. so many of the famous photographs that we remember from the war -- and we'll see a few coming up -- were originally in black and white. c-span: as it is, your book is $25.95. >> guest: nope. don't make it worse than it is. it's $25.95. c-span: what did i say? >> guest: $29.95. c-span: oh, i thought i said $25.95. that's an expensive book, though, isn't it? >> guest: well, i think it's about the upper end of the trade press. but, hey, you get a lot of photographs and you get a lot of information so... c-span: is the number of photographs the reason why it's more expensive? >> guest: yes. c-span: and it's done by basic books and what did you think of your publisher? >> guest: they were great. they really have been both from the beginning stages of helping me edit the book and conceptualize changing it from a dissertation into a book that the man on the st