it was a manufacturing hub, best the upjohn pharmaceutical company. at one point had a large pharmaceutical factory, one of the largest in the country. and a medical equipment company. you've still got some light manufacturing but a lot of those jobs have gone away. the decline started in the 1970's. and you saw gradually over the years more and more middle-class families, white families, moving out of the city into the suburbs in other districts. so, there was a slow decline in the city. and really it was economically depressed into the 1990's and beyond. over a period of 11 years, you are not going to reverse all of those losses. there is definitely a revival downtown. i can see new buildings, there is investment going in, more people moving into the city. young people in the downtown area. but, you know, it is still, you do not have to drive very far to see sagging porches and streets with cars up on, cars missing wheels and other signs of poverty, dollar stores. it is not a shiny coastal city in that snesense. another way of looking at it as prope