tim uppal was before. already lives in all of us who doesn't have far to go.laughter] >> [inaudible] >> other people do that also. it's just how they manage. what was i going to tell you? yes, we are 20 minutes away across the country. what are you watching for with these now? >> to what happens to the conservatives because if it is changing. when you talk to voters there are two things they were happy to vote for. in this case increasingly with every passing week with the entertaining for the conservatives and then to become [inaudible] and we lose the ground so if there is a breach it's going to be the conservatives are now. >> the support is very concentrated. i'm going to come to another, do you think the performance at the debate it was from a leading candidate for worst performance in the debate that i have seen i think in all of the years that i covered the federal politics. >> [inaudible] let's see what they have to say the premiere, the interim leader of the party, the list goes on. you're just walking in looking at the board. what does this bring to