of control of some of the individuals within it now prior to the uprising russia was one of the main suppliers of this to libya. but as far as i know it was not the only one and some of the countries that are now waging a campaign and military campaign against colonel gaddafi are also supplying weapons to his regime quite openly yes because it's interesting isn't it that if you look at. the moral record to the west to the east and just not all for the good we seem to him to be. iraq and libya because they've got something we want i don't see anyone having any great desire to go and invade syria and disperse the president out so maybe he's got nothing nobody wants so i think that's where the real politic comes into play but yes there was a decision taken whatever reason to support the libyan uprising even though the same countries did go to the security council and get a resolution which in part imposed an arms about you they then went a long long way beyond those terms of reference you could argue the bombing campaign itself was pushing the envelope so what contraceptive reaction to

now the uprising that turned the arab world into an ever turbulent place have also placed thousands of guns into the hands of civilians and his new leaders struggle to restore security and safety in their countries concern grows at the circulation of weapons could pose further threat to the population he spoke to a former u.n. expert on how the challenging task of disarming civilians could work out. with all the talk about diplomacy and humanity the power of the gun still remains the primary means of solving international conflicts to disguise the current state of arms trade and arms trafficking and now i'm joined by the former u.n. expert on those issues brian johnson thomas thank you very much sir for being with us today let's start with libya in the beginning of the uprising and the revolution whatever you call it there were concerns that there is this may fall into the hands of terrorists has already happened in your view when of course it has because it's easier for guns to leave an arsenal and to get them back it's about to have recalled the most of the guns that were looted alba

in egypt a lot of caution from from the united states in terms of the uprisings there which has really shifted and developed into a sort of full throated enthusiastic support for democracy and regime change abroad in certain countries now i want to play you hillary clinton in her own words not that long ago calling for democracy in those two countries khadafi must go and the libyan people deserve to determine their own future the transition to democracy in syria has begun and it's time for assad to get out of the way while strong words but let's contrast that to the secretary of state hillary clinton speaking just yesterday about a warning of a potential downsides of the so-called arab spring in the middle east and north africa the transitions to democracy have inspired the world but they have also exposed ethnic and religious minorities to new dangers. people have been killed by their own neighbors because of their ethnicity or their faith some of the foreign policy experts i've spoken to call this a sort of buyer's remorse an acknowledgement by the united states that democracy u.s. s

thank you very much sir for being with us today let's start with libya and in the beginning of the uprising of the revolution whatever you call it there were concerns that those weapons may fall into the hands of terrorists has already happened in your view well of course it has because it's easier for guns to leave an arsenal and to get them back it's about to recall the most of the guns that were looted albania in the nine hundred ninety just still missing. in the hands of criminals as much as in the hands of terrorists. start off by being illegally could be sold with at some point the guns the cultural problems and being diverted and the case of libya as you know. a lot of the rebels were until fairly recently also regarded as being in the with al qaida in some cases so there's some more use to what they might do with. you know when i was called to call carriage of the market which is always a secure interest in what happens in libya and once you get support for the revolution of any sort then you turn to the control of some of the individuals within it now prior to the uprising russia w

this is one in dara where the uprising began. a family is buried in this one, we're told, and there are many more across syria. the former attorney general details the killing and mass burial of 72 prisoners and 420 others in hama. in his resignation tape he explicitly names 14 officials, military commanders and service members for their role in the slaughter of unarmed civilians. he also makes it perfectly clear that he was told to lie about what he saw. >> translator: i was asked to present a report declaring that these victims were killed by the hand of armed gangs. >> now, armed gangs. now, armed gangs, if that term sounds familiar to you it's because armed gangs are part of the official cover story which comes from the very top. just about every one of these officials, these slick-suited officials from the dictator, syria's dictator bashar al assad to the ambassador to the u.n. who we've spoken with on this program, all of them speak about the uprising as being from armed gangs. the uprising to students at damascus universit

all of the uprisings that have taken place in the. continue to take place now who is benefiting is anyone benefiting from the instability. you see at the end of the day justice freedom and the right to self-determination is the right of all people of all nations all nations have the right to be free. under fair and just conditions to live their lives and also have the freedom of choice everyone must recognize as a god given rights and that's a legitimate right but there are of course always those who take advantage of such situations some will want to put their own copyrights sort of speak on such events so as to be able to influence the atmosphere following these events we believe that no one must interfere nations are fully capable of determining their own questioning u.s. defense secretary leon panetta said that the revolutions that have taken place. i know you're familiar with that he said a similar revolution will happen in iran in a matter of applying. their reaction. it is an opinion of course i think mr panetta was more likely

the fundamental point behind the popular uprising not in the arab world but across the world is against the influence of the extreme capitalist system which is inhuman at its core and it is not just pertaining to the arab world it is the world over in europe in great britain in france in spain in greece the world over wherever we see today if people are given a permission and a chance to express themselves and express their opinions they will certainly rise up against the influence of the united states. referring to. the uprisings that have taken place where the sun continue to take place now who is that if it is anyone benefiting from the instability. you see at the end of the day justice freedom and the right of self-determination is the right of all people of all nations all nations have the rights to be free under fair conditions to live their lives and also have the freedom of choice everyone should recognize it as a god given rights and legitimate right and of course those who take advantage of such situations some will want to put their own copyrights so to speak on such events t

this uprising began back in march it was primarily driven by they see young people like teenagers a young man in that twenty's whole bunch of the frontlines almost for the fun of it but the pictures we're now getting from tripoli show very different sort of probables there is a middle aged man who seem to be a far more professional than their handling of boris. how did that shift happen i think first of all going out on the ground for all this i mean. sort of watch myself growing over the new young man you think you are more full i think what is now part of the revolution. was going to the stage without being successful would you go about writing for both of the people who are in civilian clothes of the middle age i would guess this is a good officer. the word of the year when these people are going to train sons and finally i have a question there regarding the recent allegations or theories that some countries may be. illegally selling arms to the rebels i know that the french have a pretty cool thing about them and sometimes some rebel groups. which it is ok so it's a breach of the sec

operations and be attacking an interest in those arab spring uprisings it's a policy that could actually backfire is that fair comment. for comment i think one has to say that it's still continuing certainly the british government that's very closely associated with the americans has a whole organization called the quilliam foundation which has been very much part of a process of bringing arab muslim fundamentalists in from the fold to join in these revolutions so the key figures in the libyan opposition to gadhafi in the actual hardcore fighting force are people who are in afghanistan turned around as it were by the british and now used against africa but we do of course whether they will stay bought if i can put it that way whether they are the british or the americans will stay on parallel lives that's the danger of course and of course i suppose you could draw that comparison with what's happening in egypt where the muslim brotherhood of course is has benefited from what's happened there but here it is an organization banned by some countries a terrorist is just recently promised a n

located in yemen could be perhaps the most dangerous of all of franchises of al qaida right now the uprising in yemen presents a predicament for the u.s. replacing a bestselling government means losing a dependable ally in its counterterrorism strategy but also for the chance to build a genuinely democratic state converse play ignoring popular sentiment could result in far worse instability and possibly a breeding ground for extremism. oh have a killer well very interesting for that thank you for that mohammed if i go to you first that i think the word that was brought up here and not just report is the lemma because if you look at mainstream media you know we either have it's a civil war and we should all stay out of it and oh by the way what's more important to look at is al qaeda and it seems to me and maybe i'm wrong and maybe you'll correct me but all we hear about is about security threats to the west losing an ally and there's not much said about the people on the ground people that are dying every single day but the into there's very little international condemnation except for that

it's alleged that but sons have committed atrocities but over twenty six hundred killed since the uprising began in february but some people in the capital say they only free so the revolution they're seeing on certainty and fear as always he's more if emotional reports. few free tripoli just comes to chanting to celebrate the birth of. all reminders of a recently overthrown dictatorship prosecutor asked what used to bring nightmares to some four decades. shoshu for his curly hair we call him because his hair is so long and he doesn't cut it it's ugly actually but someone else smiling leaving the post gadhafi freedom is nothing but the main role is a crime has been the rest of three times in the last two weeks rebels interrogated him and took his documents the reason the twenty seven year old copilot says is his family's ties with gadhafi his regime we cover his face and change his name in supposedly free libya this man is afraid of being thrown to jail again over even killed you can see above wars are more graphic but you can see both blood wars on the board could be a national icon for w

this uprising began back in march it was primarily driven by base young people like teenagers a young man and my niece who went to the frontlines almost for the fun of it but the pictures right now i'm getting from tripoli show very different sort of travels there is a middle aged man whose son should be a far more professional than their handling that warrants. that shift happen i think first of all on the ground for this sort of me. sort of watch myself growing old and when you're young and you think your immortal i think what a surprise the revolution has come of course of this being successful when you go about writing the words of the people who are in civilian clothes in the middle age i would guess you know this is a good officer something in the wording of the. final i have a question there regarding their recent allegations or theories that some countries may be. illegally selling arms to grab a list i know what the french have admitted dropping about and sometimes some rebel groups most of which it is on the base but it's a breach of the security council resolution which one

good >> serious uprising began answer a crackdown to end it. neither has stopped. it is rare for foreign journalists to come here. we cannot show you, but they are here. how our first stop is the station but lies in ruins. the government said this is the work of armed games. the station director shows me the boa holds to prove it. inside what used to be his office, he told me terrorists opened fire from a nearby hill. they threw in petrol bombs that destroyed the room. they also wanted us to see this footage of a building on fire and what they say are armed protesters in the valley below. a different story is told from this footage from the bbc panorama program provided by activists. they say it shows an attack on an ambulance by security forces. this is also a battle for truth. wherever it lies. a new governor was brought in. i asked whether troops had orders to shoot. >> there is no shooting orders at all. until this very moment, no shooting orders. we have been trying to use dialogue. >> clearly, someone has been shooting around the square. the bricks are filled

humanitarian situation there in libya that scene of a two thousand six hundred killed since the uprising began. has been talking to the people of tripoli about the outcome of the revolution. you free tripoli just can't stop chanting to celebrate the birth of the uli the man of all remind us of a recently overthrown dictatorship are suppressed but used to bring nightmares to some for decades. after. his curly hair we call him because his hair is so long and he doesn't cut it it's ugly actually but someone else smiling believe in the past gadhafi freedom is nothing but the mineralogy a crime has been the rest of three times in the last two weeks rebels interrogated him and took his documents the reason the twenty seven year old copilot says is his family's ties with gadhafi his regime we cover his face and change his name in supposedly free libya this man is afraid of being thrown to jail again or even killed you can see above wars along but you can say about wars and about could be a national icon for what they are talking about democracy this is not. a crime says libya didn't get rid of

well one of those arab uprising countries which obama blames for his economic strife of course is libya where nato still trying to force gadhafi loyalists into submission and the regime fighters are now taking control of the airport in the fugitive colonel's hometown of syria the last stronghold of his loyalist civilians continue to flee the violence saying nato is hitting their homes so you can't chandan joins us now live from london he is from british civilians for peace in libya thanks for being with us this evening locals are saying power and water have run out as well as petrol and other goods and nato is hitting civilian buildings how do you see this timing in with their mission to protect the people. there is no mission to protect the people nato is involved in a war against african an arab country for many different reasons a world which i've gone into before in russia today and other places but my sources on the ground that i cross check my sources on the ground in libya tell me that bani walid is still a strong resistance against the pro nato forces and nato itself and as you

the uprising to students at damascus university. damascus university, he blamed it on outsiders, agitators, armed gangs of roving criminals. he was very, very specific, the dictator was. >> translator: what is their number? personally, i was surprised by this number. i thought they were a couple of thousands in the past. the number in the beginning of this crisis was 64,400. mash that number of number of people in different legal cases whose sentencing ranges from a couple of months to execution, and they have escaped justice. >> he claims 64,400 armed members of armed gangs, terrorists, thugs, eluding capture in a talayan police state. faced with that defiance, the regime of course is fighting back, reporting he had been kidnapped, forced at gunpoint to make his statement. then another tape surfaced. >> translator: i am judge adnan bakkuor, the former attorney general. i resigned in protest of the brutal practices of the regime against the peaceful protest protesters. and what the syrian tv has aired that i have been kidnapped by a

is for such an uprising we have never seen an actual action on the ground till now i mean the president and his into it have not yet faced any sanctions and. we have. sorry let me let me jump in here i mean what is it is it just because of the war on terrorism the u.s. and its allies decided this real or imagined threat of al qaeda in yemen is far more important then democratic values of protecting the rights of people on the ground i'm sorry to be very straightforward it is that the case yes yes yes yes i don't think that's only the kids i think the friends in the united states have left this file in or for it to be treated or to be confronted by c.n.n. specially our neighbors the saudis and the saudis have been a little bit hesitant as regards you know their position i mean they have been reported on kind of pressurising the president but we have been hearing reports that sometimes the family that people who are you know are having second thoughts about that ok well. let's talk about saudi arabia later because there are reports that the saudis are arming this regime here david if i ca

the uprising to students at damascus university. damascus university, he blamed it on outsiders, agitators, armed gangs of roving criminals. he was very, very specific, the dictator was. >> translator: what is their number? personally, i was surprised by this number. i thought they were a couple of thousands in the past. the number in the beginning of this crisis was 64,400. mash that number of number of people in different legal cases whose sentencing ranges from a couple of months to execution, and they have escaped justice. >> he claims 64,400 armed members of armed gangs, terrorists, thugs, eluding capture in a talayan police state. faced with that defiance, the regime of course is fighting back, reporting he had been kidnapped, forced at gunpoint to make his statement. then another tape surfaced. >> translator: i am judge adnan bakkuor, the former attorney general. i resigned in protest of the brutal practices of the regime against the peaceful protest protesters. and what the syrian tv has aired that i have been kidnapped by a

well also among the uprisings washington was the revolution in egypt where the muslim brotherhood is now threatening not a new mosque since of parliamentary elections. and more on what's ahead for egypt that's cost lives is the model he's a former israeli ambassador to the country and many passage warning us here on mr mansell the muslim brotherhood is considered a terrorist organization by many countries are kind of forced do you think they represent in egypt. well unfortunately that represent a very important force in egypt. became illegal after the revolution in egypt even founded a political party is justice and liberty something like these and they are considered the most important force because in the last thirty years. under set up they were released from. prison and they could operate at least on the on the social level they created the collected money you draw you know america especially when you look at it and we. found it was people to schools and the head people to leave and to to fight poverty so now that they've become legal and after. a very very important political in

going to the scene where syria's uprising began, the bbc gains rare access to the city where protests sparked a deadly crackdown across the one. germany votes to give the eurozone a bailout boost, will it be enough to calm the market woes? and beijing, we have blastoff. china takes an ambitious step in trying to become a major player in the space race. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and also around the globe. the deadly crackdown in syria continues and over the past two days alone, human rights activists say nearly 50 people have been killed. that adds to the more than 2,700 which the u.n. estimates have died since the violence began earlier this year. yet it's a story which has been hard to tell with foreign journalists largely banned from the country. however, now our correspondent has gained rare access inside syria. today, she was taken by the government under armed escort to the town where the protests began in march and she filed this exclusive report. >> troops now guard the entrance where syria's uprising began and the violent crackdown to end it. neither has stopped

us about -- uprising -- telling us about it. another section of the building code or another section or in violation of a change in voting, so in one sense, what happened here, we got blindsided here. i am looking in my brief about whether this could be pushed on us and basically extinguished my clients -- extinguish my client's rights. this is like alleging a petty theft, and you get into court, and they give you a robbery. that is what has happened. you made that ruling, a complete lack of a process for us. we had not been appraised of it. we could not answer it, because i am just looking at a 604 violation. vice president garcia: it could be that my memory is wrong, but i strongly to support -- disapprove of 604-h. there was a letter i think to this board that i would feel certain you would have a copy of. >> no, no, we were responding to this board based on the letter that to issue the permit would be a violation of 604-h. no, what i am saying is, yes, he did, and i could not answer the brief. what i think the right of thing

separate case a protester has been sentenced to death for killing a policeman during the unrest uprising came in the wake of the arab spring and was harshly suppressed with numerous claims of human rights abuses. there is no word on the fate of the eighteen passengers who were on board a plane that crashed in the mountainous region of indonesia's largest island of syria by a government officials say that they search for excuse me the largest island of sumatra government officials will say that the search for survivors is underway heavy rain was reported in sumatra before the plane went down earlier on wednesday eight people were killed and dozens more injured as people panicked on a ferry on route to the island after a fire broke out on board. almost sixty thousand people have been evacuated from the chinese island of heinen as a huge typhoon slams into southern china disruption has hit the whole island as the storm caused massive flooding with schools closed and more than sixty flights canceled at the two main airports typhoon it made its way over to the south china sea from the philipp

this uprising began back in march it was primarily driven by base young people like teenagers a young man and that my niece what branch of the frontlines holst for the fun of it but i think pictures are now getting from tripoli so very different sort of probables there is a middle aged man who's think should be far more professional than their handling of ours. how did that shift happen i think first of all going to be on the ground all the sort of main. sort of watch myself growing old and when you're young you think you are to fulfill i think what is not right the revolution has been come let's go to the stage where it looks like being successful when you get the bomb going right over the people who are now in civilian clothes in the middle and i would guess you know this is a good offer somebody they see in the way of the winds were going to change science finally i have a question regarding their recent allegations or theories that sometimes phrased maybe. illegally selling arms to the rebels i know with the french of admitting dropping weapons to some of the groups i posted somet

track record rather than here in support of human knowledge they have to admit that prior to this uprising lead there was a sort of an island of stability and they're relatively good live in africa his approach a turbulent continent. everything that is happening there and with all that flood of. flowing around what sort of implications that could have for the arab rest of the region it has implications certainly for the magreb because it's least in terms of criminals they tend not to stay within borders so you know if you tease you to organize a bank robbery in choosing this or on the basis of weapons you get from this turmoil in libya yes i agree with you one of the troubles is the. view of the way you could have a society where the gun is king if you have it's vigils with respect to the rule of law so therefore we have to have trust you know police forces there's never enough policeman to control a population by force so we have to be policed by consent. countries which police by consent generally speaking have less gun crime than countries which are about which i'm up so pleased with it

the delhi banter political mark thanks for being with us president obama has always held the arab uprisings as a victory for democracy but now he says they contributed to sloppy economic recovery in the u.s. why the change of rhetoric. i would have to say that i agree that it's very strange he seems to be very clear of what the real problems here which is what. which is why he's just who is to be rewarded and. jobs bill this doesn't seem to be made much sense to me that it could be possibly a bit of mr action or the other possibility is that he's playing to the wall street crowd for whom these issues are very large and who do get impacted by all those various sovereign debt crisis that being said i can't imagine why that would have an impact on the average american on the problems they're facing today right but oil as they came pen of the global economy of course doesn't have a point here and if so they have seen this coming anyway. well oiled been a problem for a long time but neither the european sovereign debt crisis nor the crisis in the middle east have made it well substantially more

syria wednesday in a bid to persuade the country's leader to end the six month long crackdown on the uprising there is comes after countries announced a new round of sanctions against the regime but as our he's daniel bushell reports many question whether western concern is for syria lives or their own oil revenues . william hague britain's foreign secretary says horrific scenes of brutality have forced this oil burner on syria but bizarrely sanctions once thought for over a month. they will kick in only when europeans or all firms complete their supply of going choked with syria and oil fields developed by e.u. energy giants like french to toll on being touched from many contribute because their sanctions would start only to go on with reduction of oil as a result the e.u. may end up subsidizing the regime they oppose the oil industry can use sixty day payment which means the e.u. could still be funding. into next year if crimes the horrific critics thought why the e.u. is putting profits above syria lives. diplomats want the same sions won't even hear the more they hurt ordinary people not

a handover of power from the military to civilian protesters set to become the biggest since the uprising that. president obama unveils his half a trillion dollar jobs act accompanied by stern warnings it was no time for political bickering. just fifteen seconds away from paid lavelle's later showed his guest tonight discuss how nine eleven attacks transformed the world's politics.

on to our website dot com and there you can also find more opinion and the timeline of the syrian uprising. well it was an event that stunned the world and even a decade on it still leaves few people on the move the repercussions of nine eleven are still being felt today in the form of the now allied war on terror and yet it seems for the majority of the people who bore the brunt of the world's fury of the aftermath of the attacks nine eleven is just another day this report now from afghanistan. helmand in southern afghanistan is the province that was borne the brunt of the fighting between the taliban and coalition forces. afghans in this war torn province think about nine eleven and its consequences. while on patrol with the marines i get a first opportunity to ask a couple of young afghan men what they know about nine eleven but those who will go to. war with us will be here. to see if you show them a few more and can us that they know where it is even if we don't know if that's because because your former neighbor heard about i need to support the world more so coming. to young men and