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. >> he was upt. >> if you can g to australia or germany wherthey offer subsidies dax grants -- absolutely you go there. >> tre are subsidies for animators in scotla and wales, but tax breaks for animaon in england would be unfair to the rest of t tv industry. it means a lon tradition of animated children's pograms may be coming to aend. bbc news. >> thasound like a plucked om an animated film -- a sheet habeenought in scotland for a rerd amount -- aheep has been bought for a recd amount in scoand. he hopes to make more mone selling the animal serces. the freemafoundation of ne york, stowe, vermont and honolulu. the john d. d catherine t. carthur foundati. >> union bank has put its financial strength to work f a wide range of coanies from sml businesses to majo corporations. what can we do for you? >> i'm kevin con. >> i'kim cattrall. >> hi, i'ken burns. >> i'm lili taylor. >> i'm henry louis gas, jr., and public broadsting is my source for news abt the world. >> for intellent conversation. >> for ection coverage you can count o for conversations beyond the sound bites. >> a commitment to
. >> he was upt. >> if you can g to australia or germany wherthey offer subsidies dax grants -- absolutely you go there. >> tre are subsidies for animators in scotla and wales, but tax breaks for animaon in england would be unfair to the rest of t tv industry. it means a lon tradition of animated children's pograms may be coming to aend. bbc news. >> thasound like a plucked om an animated film -- a sheet habeenought in scotland for a rerd amount -- aheep has been bought...
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upted news and rors from ou t lgue. nfl.cofantasy.i got to tell u, cris, ways tughtantasy footbal i thout for yes it ridiculous but ias in a nestd rently. the are one or two magazines about what ihappening the league and tre are like 50, 50 ntasy footll. 's insane! cris: he you ever pyed it? al: no,ut'm thig abt it. >> cris:onesto gdness it's fun and u nevefe so stid yr whole life wheyou ck the players th you know are gog be the eat ayers out erand th -- kid used to hamm me every sing year. ner won. i did it aut eight years in a w and said that's ! i'm embarrassed enough. >> al:s it as mu fun as shting dice? if iis, i'll be trouble! >> cri i have about the same chce owiin >> al:o the 3 yardin adrianetso meanile, earlyn, the stars the show depart a couple of hours ago, jay cutler d kyle orn. itas cutlegot f to a ttleit of a slow srt. every esd for e casion. all nds ofigns. the os andll of that ear on. mo got taken down for a safe in the end zone. bubefo it waall said a done, hooked up th olsen, hoed up wi pest peer an-- hester and led
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message, when i send out a message on twitter or qik, i've got my facebook page set up so it immediately uptes. you'll notice, let's see, right here if i go to john culberson, the minute i turn out my qik camera, it sends out a message that i'm sending live right now. all of my pages are linked. it updates my twitter page, my qik page, my facebook page, and it's geometric. so it's an extraordinarily powerful tool that makes me a better representative and helping me to, for example, i had a guy ask me last night, hey, i support obama's health care plan. and i said, well, i can tell you, we've god 92 -- got 92 percent opposition at this point, about 8 percent in favor. it's a wonderful communication tool, and i really am, i'm convinced that the only w we, the people, will ever get control of our government again is through social media because people won't stand for it when they see the level of spending and taxes, they don't have to wait for c-span to do the broadcast. see it live. >> host: what's the level of civility that someone could comment to you behind a keyboard? >> guest: oh, people ar
message, when i send out a message on twitter or qik, i've got my facebook page set up so it immediately uptes. you'll notice, let's see, right here if i go to john culberson, the minute i turn out my qik camera, it sends out a message that i'm sending live right now. all of my pages are linked. it updates my twitter page, my qik page, my facebook page, and it's geometric. so it's an extraordinarily powerful tool that makes me a better representative and helping me to, for example, i had a guy...
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butirst, an upte...how real ceci s all ofthis sketicism we'rseeing? >> it is certainly ral. as we all kow, plls are snapshots inime and the last several eks have not been a good period f this white hou. they have lost contol of the message. they havbeen caught by surise about the rection to the idea of drpping this governmensponsored option that is somimes known as a public plan. it's interesting, thou, in our pling, the new poll tha's come out, president obama still remains prett persally popar. his own favorability ratinis 57%. that's a goo, healthy number for a presidt. then y ask thequestion, hw do y feel about his ability to make the right deisions? wellit comes down to 49% and thenwhen we ask, hw do you feel he is doing interms of handling the helthcare ebate, it dropsown to 4% approval. so you c see that e public still likes m, and that's te good ns for the white house becausthey're going to have him selling his thing right after his vacation. but in erms of the details, the public is onfused at a minimum and upset in many nstances. gwen: peter,presumely th folks the
butirst, an upte...how real ceci s all ofthis sketicism we'rseeing? >> it is certainly ral. as we all kow, plls are snapshots inime and the last several eks have not been a good period f this white hou. they have lost contol of the message. they havbeen caught by surise about the rection to the idea of drpping this governmensponsored option that is somimes known as a public plan. it's interesting, thou, in our pling, the new poll tha's come out, president obama still remains prett...
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his latest upte iows august 8th which he wrote my twitter is oni ne k thanyou for all th your supportserattacks from russia. good news for twr d teanr faceis, was ties , was is than teisth an attempt a hackers to silence a omprt inenn ito orgea gigeorgia r?blgeog ge y are great quheti ton g woinrk toan swerthis morn me other hmbrei ower inws, remember how i told that he u.s. meat the u.s. marine s cos ed also cil twalornek aand the britain l mirystni oo to tweet. they sst thpsooay to tweet. they say thus e thete sous the a tools by apply common sense when deciding what to share on-line. that advice could be used for anyone. we have two different policies regarding social media. we will have to see which works out best. back to you. >>> the competition at theatres was really for second place. the weekend box office results coming up in the buzz. >>> and we will preview the hbo documentary chronicling the ups and downs of dc councilman and former mayor marion barry. ?ñ?? seem smooth and strong to irreversible damage. no different. irreversible loss of enamel. enamel shield enamel loss by
his latest upte iows august 8th which he wrote my twitter is oni ne k thanyou for all th your supportserattacks from russia. good news for twr d teanr faceis, was ties , was is than teisth an attempt a hackers to silence a omprt inenn ito orgea gigeorgia r?blgeog ge y are great quheti ton g woinrk toan swerthis morn me other hmbrei ower inws, remember how i told that he u.s. meat the u.s. marine s cos ed also cil twalornek aand the britain l mirystni oo to tweet. they sst thpsooay to tweet....
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verybody else was upt.my agentwas concerned andthis one and that one and and i thought, y know what? i've got to go dwn to mmi, i've got to work out for seven, eight months to pu on anywhere from 25o 28 pods of muscle d get... because ese guys are big. i walked around like 195 and these gu are 230. >>ose: so you keep the job, though? and y go through this regimen? >> right. >> rose: have the skills chnged? are they sw? it like mull thatou can sily back working and they all come back? you know what iean? >> yes, i kn what you mean really well and it's a very god estion. becae it wasn't a... you know, it wasn't ever a questionf ability, it was question of hat i h someissues... old sues that i hdn't come to terms with. and it was authority. it was authority figures. it was... it was... it was the fact that i couldn't be controlled couldn't betalked down to if i thought it was... it was a lot ofunk and garbage i had in m head that i didn't have the informatio abo to change andix. and you n only do that if you g
verybody else was upt.my agentwas concerned andthis one and that one and and i thought, y know what? i've got to go dwn to mmi, i've got to work out for seven, eight months to pu on anywhere from 25o 28 pods of muscle d get... because ese guys are big. i walked around like 195 and these gu are 230. >>ose: so you keep the job, though? and y go through this regimen? >> right. >> rose: have the skills chnged? are they sw? it like mull thatou can sily back working and they all...
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ople are upt abouthis but since h hasn't rais taxes, which peop are even probably me concernedabout,s ill pretty much gettg a pass on this, and the other thing is ere are no challengersn sight ashis popularity does take some hits but there is no one coming up saying, "i want to be the next mayor" that at this point has a partilarly credible llowing. >> suarez: i as in part because this is aity and this is a mayor that are paticularly proud of how well t city works even when things an't going wellthat it's a high-svices city, and that therere libraries in evy neighborhood in the city and on and on th would seem to well,be chicago taking a kock during a tough time economically. >> we, it is taki a knock, there is no doubt about it, chicago is aity that worked is one of themayor farite expssions but chicago isn't immune to theseough economic times and i think peoplere -- the citizenry generally is understanding of e kind of cuts anthe kind of service cutbacks th the mayor has had o make. of course, the mayor's biggest full-employment oortunity is e hope that chicago gets the 2016 olympi
ople are upt abouthis but since h hasn't rais taxes, which peop are even probably me concernedabout,s ill pretty much gettg a pass on this, and the other thing is ere are no challengersn sight ashis popularity does take some hits but there is no one coming up saying, "i want to be the next mayor" that at this point has a partilarly credible llowing. >> suarez: i as in part because this is aity and this is a mayor that are paticularly proud of how well t city works even when...
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senator bachus admitted that the republican leadership is "doing its upt most to kill this bill." trying to kill the bill, planning on voting against it, all the while somehow persuading democrats to make changes to this bill that the democrats don't purportedly really want to make. this is the character of the republican contribution to the health care debate right now. let's take a 24-hour snapshot of republican efforts towards bipartisan health reform. the health care reform is a secret plot to kill old people, right? david vitter of louisiana is apparently engaged in his own secret health care plot. instead of reforming health care in this country, senator vitter has a plan to destroy the health care system of canada. at least that's what he said. >> i'm for reimportation not because i want to import price controls, which canada has, you're right. it's because i believe reimportation will cause the pricing system worldwide that the big drug companies exploit to collapse. that system can survive. so my ultimate goal in terms of reimportation is causing that system to collapse.
senator bachus admitted that the republican leadership is "doing its upt most to kill this bill." trying to kill the bill, planning on voting against it, all the while somehow persuading democrats to make changes to this bill that the democrats don't purportedly really want to make. this is the character of the republican contribution to the health care debate right now. let's take a 24-hour snapshot of republican efforts towards bipartisan health reform. the health care reform is a...
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at the ment it's th latest poll, for what it's worth, had president karzai upt 45%.which is wel ahead of abdullah abdullah who is ming in second. butarzai has to win 51of the vote in order for there noto be a runoff. and there's no po that's ever shoed him that pular in thisountry at thisoint in time. hes actually quite unpopular. his greatest strength is that he's known. he's the president, he's there, he's pulng the lers of power,e's been on tv a lot, he's been, not public television, state television, quite a difference. and a complnt there, that it's been measur, something ke 70% ofhe coverage in this election season. so there's a goodchance he will win outright, but the's also quite agood chance tha there will be a runoff. >> brow: all right, renee montagne, tnk you fo talking to us. >> thanks for ving me. >> lehrer: in other news tod, a y taliban commander's bases inakistan came under fire from helicoer gunships. governmenforces targeted two locations in the nthwest, near the ahan border. they said aleast 12 insurgents were killed. the bases areun by a possible
at the ment it's th latest poll, for what it's worth, had president karzai upt 45%.which is wel ahead of abdullah abdullah who is ming in second. butarzai has to win 51of the vote in order for there noto be a runoff. and there's no po that's ever shoed him that pular in thisountry at thisoint in time. hes actually quite unpopular. his greatest strength is that he's known. he's the president, he's there, he's pulng the lers of power,e's been on tv a lot, he's been, not public television, state...
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so i can be interest in you and you are sending uptes. u don't know who the heck i am. or you jusdon't care about my uates. and you ignore me. >> rosewhereas if i was on social nworking and you wanted to be my friend, i would have to confirm. >yeah. >> rose: but here i dot know who isetting it. just the people wiout want it can get it. >> right. so it's much more open. and itreates a different ki of dynamic. so whayou are doing is you are just kind o putting stuff out there and sort of like y would put stuff o on the web or on a blog. but it's much faster and more constrain than that. >> rose: constraed because it's oy 140haracters. yeah, consrained because it is only 140 characters. and ctures, nthing b pure tex >> rose: okay. but wh happened at the time of the crash in the hudson of the flight. >>hat's one of the other phenomenon ofwitter is you can actually post pictures through third part what you do is pt a link to anythg. so it can be aeb site, picture. there is a service called twit pic which is one of may be - they're at least 2000 different programs tat c send
so i can be interest in you and you are sending uptes. u don't know who the heck i am. or you jusdon't care about my uates. and you ignore me. >> rosewhereas if i was on social nworking and you wanted to be my friend, i would have to confirm. >yeah. >> rose: but here i dot know who isetting it. just the people wiout want it can get it. >> right. so it's much more open. and itreates a different ki of dynamic. so whayou are doing is you are just kind o putting stuff out there...
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and then people begi unsurprisingly, showing upt rallies withuns.wellobviously, if the president were. i mean, folks, if i bieved the president of the united statewere a nazi, re planning a fascist takeov, it would be contemptibly cowardly ofe not too everything in my power, including contemplatg violen, to resist such a thin every decent person ould do that. that's why you don say it when it's not true. and i mean, one of the ws that the constitution system works is with me understanding that thpeople on the other side ha slightly different priorities, but they share yr constitutional vues. they have invested in thsame stem. the problems they've got a hard problems. and evenf you don't like their answers, you have to have so restraint inhe way you talk about them, as you would hop they would have out you. and i think it'sust trageous. it is dangerous. it's dangerous forhe whole constitutional system. i'm absoluly prepared to fight with them. and by theay, it's dangerous to conservatives because t effectf the talk of people like levin and rh limbaug
and then people begi unsurprisingly, showing upt rallies withuns.wellobviously, if the president were. i mean, folks, if i bieved the president of the united statewere a nazi, re planning a fascist takeov, it would be contemptibly cowardly ofe not too everything in my power, including contemplatg violen, to resist such a thin every decent person ould do that. that's why you don say it when it's not true. and i mean, one of the ws that the constitution system works is with me understanding that...
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harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i uptbefore, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get credit the government doesn't provide it. americans are smarter than elected republicans are. they understand what should be done. and certainly smarter than elected democrats. [applause] >> i am from the university of north carolina. i was wondering how you felt about sarah palin's resignation and where you see her career going? >> her resignation made perfect sense. she explained it. she can either respond to her admirers norbert detractors, her hand is tied behind her back as a governor. she has these endless ethics complaints being filed against her which is a specialty of the left. every right wi
harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i uptbefore, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get...
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another high te cycle cing upt 10:30. amazing. ok fshorehe. we've gotbout 12 to 15-ft was breakinandhe tide's ly comg up goinghroughhe morning. rerts heren t islanre obvisly eliminy. we'v had a lf lht debs th'some down paroms have ce do. coconuts this like th, a t of leafdeis. thing us wld expect type oftructu dagehat we pect. 95iles an ur winds, bermu ma up o aot ofhis. e aiort closed a was the causay bridge. wexpect tha t prelimiry op at 2:00 thiafternoo i th can get airaft in. rit now no aircraf obviously here onheinesland beuda. the worst is past. we'll e the su thorst rults, of coue, the we tt com in wh the next hh tide that will behe moryf ll. e loss of ach,ecau o the ves. bao you. >> j cantorthks. >>> for more onhat wean expect o hurricane bl her in the u.s you tur to nbc new meorolistill karins. the good bill, in ts se. goomorning. ere jimantore w locate andlely o t et sef thecircatio the outan a re. you can see t storm wl off the east coas but waves a ving towards it. a strongategy 2 right now making its cse pathoing t th oer bas. we
another high te cycle cing upt 10:30. amazing. ok fshorehe. we've gotbout 12 to 15-ft was breakinandhe tide's ly comg up goinghroughhe morning. rerts heren t islanre obvisly eliminy. we'v had a lf lht debs th'some down paroms have ce do. coconuts this like th, a t of leafdeis. thing us wld expect type oftructu dagehat we pect. 95iles an ur winds, bermu ma up o aot ofhis. e aiort closed a was the causay bridge. wexpect tha t prelimiry op at 2:00 thiafternoo i th can get airaft in. rit now no...
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again, highs around 80 for fi f upt le first couple of days and sunday into the low 80s. what is happening with our current temperatures around the region. 73 degrees here. 72 up if baltimore. patuxent naval air station is at 74 degrees and out at winchester, 68 degrees at this hour. here is a look at the satellite radar for the region. got some clouds and it's a nice mix of clouds and sunshine across most of the washington area. we have had some areas of fog move across the region as well. that's beginning to burn off. and we have some precipitation but down to the south across southern portions of the potomac river and some rain showers linger there. and the forecast for today looks like this: similar to yesterday, more sunny than yesterday, and an isolated afternoon thunderstorm is possible. when i say isolated, that's what i mean. a couple of these popping up here and there. a couple of you might see rain showers. high today of about 86 degrees. that's one deege norm -- degree below normal. and let's take one final look at julie wright. >>est earn market, tomorrow mor
again, highs around 80 for fi f upt le first couple of days and sunday into the low 80s. what is happening with our current temperatures around the region. 73 degrees here. 72 up if baltimore. patuxent naval air station is at 74 degrees and out at winchester, 68 degrees at this hour. here is a look at the satellite radar for the region. got some clouds and it's a nice mix of clouds and sunshine across most of the washington area. we have had some areas of fog move across the region as well....
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harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i upt before, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get credit the government doesn't provide it. americans are smarter than elected republicans are. they understand what should be done. and certainly smarter than elected democrats. [applause] >> i am from the university of north carolina. i was wondering how you felt about sarah palin's resignation and where you see her career going? >> her resignation made perfect sense. she explained it. she can either respond to her admirers norbert detractors, her hand is tied behind her back as a governor. she has these endless ethics complaints being filed against her which is a specialty of the left. every right w
harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i upt before, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get...
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i think... a little upt that children can't enjoy this w of life that i cherish, u know? >> in rock hall rbor, all that used to be prossing houses for striped bass, fooysters, for clams, for everything was harvesting. >> sth: so a lot of people in the fish a crab and oyster business went out of busins? >> yeah. >> youe talking about billions dollars of economic impact withters, crabs, shad, striped bass. the define in the fisheriehas just been dramatic. i woul't have thought even ten or 15 years ago that we woul lirally lose oysters as a commeral fishery. weave. it's... it's don >> smith: watermen are sing the symptoms of decline, b the deer problem, i learned, is th the very dynamics of the bay's ecosystem are bein fundamentally alred by human impact. the bais acutely vulnerable because s watershed is so large-- 11,000 milesf sheline, and it drains big rivers fm six states. >> in all north america, it's the rgest estuary. we'rtalking a sixth of the east coa from cooperstown, new york, t into west virginia, almost dn to north carolina. >> smith: it is the receptle of an e
i think... a little upt that children can't enjoy this w of life that i cherish, u know? >> in rock hall rbor, all that used to be prossing houses for striped bass, fooysters, for clams, for everything was harvesting. >> sth: so a lot of people in the fish a crab and oyster business went out of busins? >> yeah. >> youe talking about billions dollars of economic impact withters, crabs, shad, striped bass. the define in the fisheriehas just been dramatic. i woul't have...
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harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i uptefore, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get credit the government doesn't provide it. americans are smarter than elected republicans are. they understand what should be done. and certainly smarter than elected democrats. [applause] >> i am from the university of north carolina. i was wondering how you felt about sarah palin's resignation and where you see her career going? >> her resignation made perfect sense. she explained it. she can either respond to her admirers norbert detractors, her hand is tied behind her back as a governor. she has these endless ethics complaints being filed against her which is a specialty of the left. every right win
harder to explain to americans the free market in an area where they haven't experienced it up for i uptefore, -- it before, i.e. health care. you have the government controlling -- or rather, creating incentives so that people get health care from their employers. there is no free market either and health insurance or in health care. explaining what to be done to health care to americans, i feel like i'm trying to explain to an old soviet woman right after the fall how she is going to get...
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. >> can you see why your in-laws might upt? >> no, they know what i do. expense. they should have a sense of humor. not jokes on stage but in a temple. kind of like a stage. >> with your husband representingyou, is th csed strain in your marriage? >> it did cause a strain in the very beginning because i always try make the families go tother black people like to try to kee families together. when jewish peopleay we're not talking anymore, they're not talking anymore and that's it. >> if your mother-in-law's watching right now, what would you say? >> ruth, it's just not that serious. call me! i need a new recipe. >> sundra croonquist. we reached out to her mother-in-law and her attorney but we did not get a response. >> i'm so sorry but we'll be talking about her at the laugh factory in hollywood. >> she's here until thursday. >>> coming up next, a difficult le mm fawhmiat dli what shoulbe done with unused frozen embryos. we'll get into that right after these messages. - to paint with primer already mixed in? - ♪ yeah yeah yeah... - test samples instead of
. >> can you see why your in-laws might upt? >> no, they know what i do. expense. they should have a sense of humor. not jokes on stage but in a temple. kind of like a stage. >> with your husband representingyou, is th csed strain in your marriage? >> it did cause a strain in the very beginning because i always try make the families go tother black people like to try to kee families together. when jewish peopleay we're not talking anymore, they're not talking anymore and...