talked more about the issues with infrastructure with rachel mccleary vice president of the urban land institute infrastructure initiative at the urban land institute we firmly believe that infrastructure provides the foundation for metropolitan prosperity and national prosperity you see this across the country and across the globe as. countries and governments recognize the vital importance of investing in infrastructure and building the pillars of a modern economy and you know and examples like the very talented things that are happening right now in india with the collapse of the electricity grid and i see the perils of not making those investments in a timely way and not not spending the money that we need to spend on infrastructure but what do you say to people who say you know maybe in a few years we'll be able to really invest in those projects but we should focus now on climbing out of debt. well i mean i think investing in infrastructure is both a short term solution and a long term solution. but the urban land institute we focus on the longer term view a lot of places like the american

but the urban land institute we focus on the longer term view a lot of places like the american society of civil engineers and others are really looking at the short term job benefits and helping to put people back to work which is of course an immediate concern so pumping money into infrastructure investments not only does it give you benefits today but it also you know provides those long term benefits that you need so you know it's not it's not an either or question and we have this report card that we put up on screen just a few moments ago this is by the american society of civil engineers this is not a partisan group looking for political gain these are grades given by people who understand the engineering aspect of things that are built in the last lack of safety standards have been implemented i mean i know that if i brought a report card that looked home looked like this home to my parents there would be some immediate changes that would happen i guess i'm wondering why. you know letter grades and information like this has largely been ignored you know i mean i think across the