they just explore, they talk with urbanists, black power people and all kinds ofpeople working in the city to figure out what might work . they developed this new development corporation . which was, and they also managed to get some funding that they could help and in that level on this committee was from joe in pennsylvania but anyway, basically it's not enough government money to be working. they developed a project with a few entities, one is community . committee boards, representing the interests and concerns of the community . what should be done? and it was looking at everything. housing, education, a number of different projects wouldbe developed over time . to redevelop the community. and then one of his aides said their benefiting a board of corporate people to help raise money. and to provide for the site and so robert kennedy was not liked by business but he appealed to people and got tremendous support and the names aren't in my head right now but an impressive group of people involved in these differentfinances and that was set up . i think for these businessmen they sa

i was always an urbanist even when i did not know it. we were all urbanist. we could not help it. we learned a certain type of mixed methodology. we learned archival work, we learned how to do cultural analysis. but when i first came out of graduate school, most of my work with the title of my previous books. historical. but that training had always been in the background. available when it was necessary. there was this moment when i was actually in the archives at the university of chicago. i was conducting historical archival work. when i came outside of the library on the south side. history hit me right in the face and i talk about this in the book where you had individuals, a murmur and a protest and shouting and i followed this out to the administration building. there was a group of brownsville to the north where the university has speared the university of chicago officials on the other. there was a debate around the checkerboard lounge. a historic black blues club tavern that was the home of the pioneering and iconic event that brought together muddy waters and the rollin

we were all urbanists and we dependent know. and we learned methodology, and we learned how to do cultural analysis, but when i first came out of graduate school, most of my work as you say with the titles of my previous books have been archival, historical. but that training had always been in the background. they were available when necessary, and there was this moment in 2003 when i was actually in the archives at the university of chicago and i was conducting historical archival work, but then when i came outside of the library on the south side, history hit me right in the face. and i talk about this in the introduction of the book, where you had individuals, there with as a murmur and a protest and shouting and i followed the sounds to the administration building. and there were a group of bronzeville, historically black neighborhood to the north of hyde park where the university is. on one side, and university of chicago officials on the other and there was a debate around the chucker board lounge, a historic black blues

trained over 20 years ago in american studies primarily a distant field in new york city so i was urbanist even though i didn't know it. help it but we learned a certain methodology we learned archival work cultural analysis but when i first came out of graduate school, most of my work was the title of the last primarily archival historical but the training had always been the background, available when necessary if there was a moment when i was in the archives at the university of chicago and i was conducting historical archival work but when i came outside of the library on the south side from a history hit me in the face. i talk about this in the book where you have individuals, a murmur and a protest and shouting and i followed the sound to the administration building. there were a group, a historically black neighborhood to the north of high park where the university as. the university of chicago on the other side. there was a debate around the checkerboard lounge which was a historical black blues club tavern that was the home of the pioneering iconic events that brought together mud

i think that will have an effect ultimately on reshaping and remaking these office areas or what urbanistss. >> so explain how that will play out. describe what you think is going to happen. because if you do end up with more remote work, won't more people say, well, i could live in the suburbs. commuting three times a week is not as bad as commuting five times a week. what's the hybrid model we're looking at for the future? >> so remote work seems to have two big effects. the first is very similar to the introduction of earlier technologies like the subway or the commuter train or the automobile. remote work is the latest technology which stretches the boundaries of cities for what we call metropolitan areas. if the car allowed people to decamp to the suburbs, remote work really allows people to decamp to rural areas outside cities like new york and san francisco. if you look at the data, some of the fastest growing areas in america are the hudson valley towns outside new york city, and there are equivalents outside los angeles or san francisco. the second big effect is how people work an