in the crossfire, two former governor, bill richardson and bob urlich. on this hall oweek, the worst trick that nobody is talking about is what republican governors are doing to their own people. millions of americans get up every mork, work hard all day long, don't make enough money for insurance, and they make too much money to qualify for medicaid. that's why obama care includes federal dollars for every state to expand medicaid to help those working families. to me there is nothing more ghoulish than republican governors rejecting that money and denying their own citizens life-saving health insurance just for political points. that's my happy halloween to you, newt. >> i know this is a very difficult concept for our friends on the left to understand, but a lot of governors actually believe that being bankrupt would be bad. they believe that spending a lot of money we don't have is not good. so actually, in a lot of cases they're making a principled decision, one, to not spend money they don't have, but two, to avoid federal regulation washington cont