ursua: ok. very good. excellent. thank you. thank you. silvia uriarte: thank you so much. hom: i think a big challenge for us is that because we're intentional about working with communities that don't necessarily see solar every day, there can be a natural state of distrust when we come in and say, "here's a free opportunity." i think a lot of our customers are skeptical that something like this isn't too good to be true, and i don't blame them, because i think there's a lot of rationales for being skeptical. silvia uriarte: ihink most people are skeptical because they can't affordo make a mistake. yeah, they're great for our environment, yes, you save energy, but at the same time, the cost of installation and the cost in the long--long run. i think that makes people afraid. hom: many of the populations that we work with are in communities where there were significant presences of predatory lenders. for example, 10 years ago. and a lot of different institutions or different companies have left people feeling like they were taken advantage of. we're actively involved every