then i would like to ask, actually two somewhat contradictory things were heard : when ursula von derlianskaaid that the european union has a plan for the recovery of ukraine, and president zelensky said that ukraine has a plan for the recovery of ukraine where is he invited to join , hmm, how to interpret it, is it here, is it about one plan, are they talking about one plan, or are they talking about two different ones, or is it a question of who will, relatively speaking, decide how, who, where, and with reforms or without, or did not happen here, this kind of thing happened covertly. so , just as the word reform was used, they say reform, you are now, not us, is it here, or did i interpret it incorrectly because, well, i feel such and such a certain one, you know, this one, vivi- from the echo you know, teach to live, help financially. the fact is that there is really a struggle here for who will distribute the funds. we understand very well that the people who will give the funds will claim to control and possibly give some advice as it is better to use them, it is clear that the ukraini