it is hard for us as business people to underestimate what is necessary politically to get anything done, and that would be in the area where we did not have a lot of expertise. we can only help people do analysis, the facts, the things we do for livings. >> what we know is here in washington, people talk about things being scored. what i know is this return on investment. return on investment in our business and our customers return on investment, and the kinds of things when we talk about this trillion dollars of savings, these are things with 30%, 40% return on investment. scoring, i will be the first to admit i don't understand it, but i do understand very high return on investment, and those are things, whether a company or government, ought to be done. the way that you drive it, you say this will save one, $50 million, we will take that out of your budget in the future. we go get the savings and we have accountability to make it happen. >> that is part of the dilemma. i used to be the comptroller at dod, and it makes it really hard because you say i'm going to take money away from

it is hard for us as business people to underestimate what is necessary politically to get anything done and that is an area where we don't have a lot of expertise. we can only help people with the analysis, the fact, of things we do for a the things we do for a living. >> you heard washington -- what i know is return on investment. our customers return on investment and the kinds of things when we talk about this trillion dollars of savings, these are things that have 30%, 40% return on investment. i don't understand it. i do understand very high are i. those the things that the company or government ought to be done and the way you drive it is $100 million. you get $150 million out of your budget in a future period. and accountability to make it happen. >> everybody knows the patron saint of all controllers -- it makes it really hard. i am going to take money out as long as you do the right thing now but you are right. let's get into the report. you really ought to read it. it is a good piece. the audience needs to get a little familiarity. one of the things that is concretely saying,

used for other things within their business and even other marketing efforts. i think that their practices can even be described as predatory. i think moving forward there will be less and less need for this as people move more towards the digital land came and are using yelp and google and all of these different things to contact the businesses they're looking for. don't think the yellow pages is something people will need in the future. thanks. >> thank you. >> after this group, dominic biansetti, dave grenle. >> good evening, commissioner. thanks for your time on this valentine's day. it's great to be back. i'm the manager of a local business outreach at yelp. and today's point to go over some trends that we're seeing in the local search industry about the shifting behavior among san francisco consumers, specifically. so just quick quote, and this is from b.i. arkse kelsey, which is basically the think tank that represents the local source industry and yellow pages. we're members but more traditionally and more represents traditionally yellow book industry. even with improvements we do not anticipate a rapid recovery among traditional media over the forecast period because we believe the structu

people they purport to live among? we asked our global editor at large to tell us what she makes of them. >> through my work as a business journalist, have spent the past decade shadowing people and extended the close of conferences and observing high- powered dinner parties in manhattan. some of what i have learned is entirely predictable. at the rich are, as f. scott its jerrold noted, not different from you and me. what makes them different? are they hard working business people or greedy fat cats? and how much influence do they have? the answers to some of those questions are to be found here. [music plays] the world economic forum in switzerland is a honey come to those with personal fortunes. and it is not just out pinstripes' part of this club. the super rich are young, creative. >> that is my fault, because i had the yellow. >> she is good. >> to that or you got the idea? -- is that where you got the idea? >> it was finished, and she said it was not. >> did it meet your expectations? but, if people are here? >> everybody has made a good one. nobody has made a bad one. >> many of today's rich elite are the benefic

in prison and they should be us as many people in jail than any other country. big say that's because big businesses are turning into profit. more with stories that you took a week revenue in most in fifteen minutes time we've got created now that must mean case you said with our use starring you know that it must be sport but for those who like football it's f.a. cup we care that england at the outset so far we've got four like i mean yes of sorts hold us chelsea out softly seem to have it in on penalties but they expect to get the old usual join killing us because you never know what's going to happen these weekends and this is to use a well managed and i did a carney taking on crawley town four divisions below them as we speak could be the biggest cup upset of all time well yes that it would be to get the latest next or. hello welcome to the sports news thank you for joining me and b.'s all the headlines cup upsets everton beat holders chelsea on penalties in a replay while manchester united host not only crawley in the fifth round of football's all this domestic knockout tournament the f.a. cup.

as creating living space. the neighborhood that's grid with busy streets and in between are the narrow and underused streets that could be used to off set as public gatherering spaces and planted areas and conducive for people. let's scratch the surface of that. within a week, the community challenge grant and the mayor's office of greening had grownup from had it's own grass roots and it was kismit there was a coincidance of events. we sketched up a few drawings of what we could think of. which is to remove a couple of -- 3 on street parking spaces so as to narrow the road bed of the street and provide places to sit. you know, landscape the areas for the community of coffee drinkers, if you will. we started to realize. this will cost money and it's a tremendous opportunity to connect with the neighbors. neighbors being residence denies. mixed use alley has automatic repair shops. it has some residential and some businesses. and so you know it's not our traditional one block of residential users or something. so we reached out with the sketches we had and found a receptive audience. and i think that was you know so receptive it was like a yearning. people really looking for a good idea and a good place to d

people weren't used to seeing. and a business many being held up. and in george washington high school, the farther of our country pointing the pioneers west as they walk over a dead indian. most of the art is not controversial. most of the artists celebrates local produce. this is one of the most extraordinary murals i have seen. at a tuberculosis cemetery. they also painted a mural in san francisco. finally, it's on the outside of the berkeley community theater. all people brought together through the arts. unfortunately, it was not the last. the war came along. and anton refurgie. there were controversial. there were tried in washington in 1953. he had a panel showing the arts and sciences. there is luther burbank and jack london. there was a thing on the side. it says federal art project and has beginning and ending date. that is a wall which becomes a tomb stone. the artists themselves are becoming ghosts. that's what he's doing there. joseph danish. head of the projects, it is it was a wonderful time that he woke up every morning wondering how long it would last. they were being paid to produce public art. well, what happened of course is the war

using all the latest technologies next door as in the rest of the world. so what is said is pure propaganda by people who attack the company they're all busy seeking economic benefits wouldn't. for. when i came here the pool had already being constructed back in the mountains it didn't seem bad. then they say they cleaned and burnt the waste but they didn't. they only through wooden earth. nothing else. earth in order to fill up the holes left after the deep pollution. where the government. would be dumb. it's pure oil. can't records but the smell is absolutely disgusting. and when it's sunny the stench is even stronger. of course when it rains the toxic waste spreads elsewhere that is why pollution here is parametric. it has tremendous repercussions on the people and that is why in the amazon cancer rates are much higher. there are one hundred forty seven percent more cancer cases that in other areas of a country which have no oil activity. thank. you we have the highest cancer rates in the ecuadorian amazon over fifteen hundred people have died from cancer. that's so people die from cancer all across the world causes and effects between oil and cancer ha

people who are used to doing business as the kind of domesticated house plant opposition under mubarak might be tempted to negotiate and they're saying "no, don't do it." >> rose: so where is mohammed el bare di in all this? >> where is mohammed elbaradei? not on the street, that's for sure. >> rose: some of the people who work with him or know him or are represented in the leadership? >> some of the young organizers are some of his supporters and they're the ones who put his name up there as a potential candidate. rose: does he have a serious role if, in fact, mubarak goes? >> well, it's hard to tell what would happen but when you're out on the streets you don't get the sense that he does have a big following. you do have a group of young people who are enthusiastic about the idea of mohammed elbaradei. you also have no other sort of public figures that have had that backing so... he's also been passive in a way. he's chosen to follow the lead of young people who have been the ones moving the street. >> rose: and has he taken himself out of being a president? >> no, i think... >> well

and imprisoned may send us as more people in jail than any other country and some acts convicts say is because big businesses turn prison and. next we take a look at russia's relations with nato in our interview shall spotlight. hello again or welcome to spotlight the interview show on r.t. and i'll bring up then today my guest on the show is james a pastor. in washington has published its new national military strategy the document shifts the political interest of the u.s. to former soviet countries in asia and the caucasus social asia is a valuable supply hub for nato forces in afghanistan while georgia could be a base for part of the american anti-missile shield but is russia's position on this considered in washington and brussels here's laitos deputy assistant secretary general public affairs and security policy james abaft. need to stand security and transparent.

people doing work, making recommendations, negotiating, give or take. now, i mean, that doesn't deal with the political environment. and so it's hard for us, i think, as business people to underestimate what's necessary politically to get anything done, and that would be an area which we don't have a lot of expertise in. we can only help people with the analysis, the facts, the case, you know, the things that we do for a living. >> yeah. but what we do know is that, you know, here in washington people talk about things being scored, you know? and it has to be scored. and, you know, what i know is return on investment. and return on investment in our business and our customers see return on investment, and the kinds of things that when we talk about this trillion dollars of savings, these are things that have 30, 40% return on investment. and so, you know, scoring, i'll be the first to commit, i don't -- admit, i don't understand it. but i do understand very high roi, and, you know, those are things that whether it's a company or government ought to be done, and the way you drive it is you say, okay, this is going to save $100 million, $150 million. we're going

as a couple of blocks of arguello a busy intersection through that stretch. also impacting several muni lines including the 38 geary which a lot of people use as well as the 33those lines. across the antioch bridge, nice and quiet. you can see a couple of headlights there. first sign of brake lights though through antioch just from a street to somersville improving closer to pittsburg and concord. so far, so good usually the slow spot out of the altamont pass but not seeing any yellow yet on our sensors. so 14 minutes from 205 to the dublin interchange. we had an earlier problem on the bay bridge, very early this morning. there was a two-car accident never really caused much of a delay, they were able to clear it quickly. and right now no problems at the bay bridge toll plaza. the metering lights have not been turned on yet. not likely for another half hour or so, so that's why it's still good heading into san francisco. and as we are seeing from our live sensors, looks great all across the upper deck. lower deck into oakland fine, as well. this is the san mateo bridge. definitely busier now than in our last traffic report about 15 minutes ago. this is the c

insisted on flat rate or same quality service for everyone, those with big business users and they were using power to the people as an argument in order to protect their turf. i think that's worth keeping in mind. second, this idea that decentralized meeting -- me is prima facie democratic, early radio, and use it is in your book, it lost a lot of its potential. if we hadn't had edward r. murrow in the second world war here and now come if we had a lot of little radio stations, no one knew the resource in london to be broadcasting about the nazis. we may perhaps be in a different place today. and i think that is a real problem with this debate over smallest -- there's a really of journalistic professionals. there's a reason of standards, reason you training and a reason that you have a limitation on access from the point of view of ordinary human being. not everybody is sitting there surfing the net 10 hours a day. we have college students doing it. they tend to come from a rather well off part of the social system. >> let me say since it is late and we can only get two more minutes. ic-3 questioners, right? so yo

business with people i do not the test. [laughter] >> you established your firm here. he reestablished your family roots here. -- you reestablished your family roots here. you used this festival asay to give back to the community even more. >> the theory of that was that we would have a concert for the middle school kids. we bust in nearly all of the middle school kids from san francisco and now from around the bay area. the kids love it. the letters i get are very endearing. school volunteers and the school districts are really into it. there is a lot of collaboration. >> i have this image in my mind of you as the biggest fan of the hardly strictly bluegrass festival. what are some of the highlights for you over the last 10 years? >> they are sort of the nostalgic highlights. every year at the end, when in the low harris -- emmylou harris closes the festival and someone else opens the festival. i always call them the heart and soul of the festival. those are wonderful must object moments. having a chance to listen up close to some of the greats. those are some of the great emotional moments. there's always one moment that is so bizarre. 3 or four years ago i was sitting out fro

some business owners refuse to pay for garbage collection and the use other people's trash cans instead. >> trashes all over the place as >> all but i do not live in the baby seen all of this set of industries saddens me. you should not ever leave anything industry. the smallest help by going to www.kron4.com. i'm stanley roberts with kron4 news days. >> vicki: if you have a comment or a story eagle asset peoplebehavingbadly@kron4.co m the >> at these pictures are from libya. reports out of libya are showed that dozens of protesters have been killed. there are rumors that these estimates are false. >> (foreign language) >> more than 250 people have been killed, these are extreme numbers. these are rumors. the >> libyans are trying to find out what they're happening to friends and family. they are horrified by what they're seeing a troubled by what they are not. >> up from the san francisco living room with people watching of restoration.in frus most of the people are getting their information from sell phones. we do not know what is going on in libya. >> reporter: from fear of reprisals the couple is asking not to use t

used to say it's a suburb of munich but people here don't like that. you could equally describe munich as a suburb. >> if germans come here, it's good. good for business once a year, business is particularly good. in january, the world's best skiers descend to test their skill on the legendary run, thought to be the most difficult ski run. the event draws some 90,000 visitors. >> i watched it years ago in los angeles with friends and it's an amazing race. with tradition known around the world. ledgedndry greats. it's taken on iconic status. >> it's to skiing what monaco is to formula one. it's the most exciting and dangerous course in the world and it's a real party at the same time. but it's not just the pros who get to ski. celebrities from all over the world take to the legendary race itself to raise money for charity. >> i could feel the fare running do you know the inside of my legs. it's great -- fear to be running down my legs. it's great to be here for the main event and then to meet some of the different people. >> david's compat rot prefers to watch from the sidelines. >> i haven't skied for about ten years so i would be too scared to even t

in fact as i mentioned earlier people at our job saw it coming into work and told us about it. we got over here as quickly as we can and the carpet business has been rebuilt. the question now it's not been occupied since that fire. you can't see it now but the roof is completely gone. so if you have a chance to look at it from above the building's completely gutted. and as i said the people we talked to around here believe this all happened in the past couple days they believe the rains we had yesterday was the main cause. one more thing i want to show you before we go, you see these doors over here. look at this building it's kind of shotty but the doors are fairly brand new. they say the doors were just put in there because the owner of the building wanted to keep people squatting out of the building. but also possibly thinking about doing something with that building in the near future. looks like that will not happen. live in oakland, kraig debro, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> time now 5:03. more than a dozen bay area war veterans are homeless this morning. they were chased into the streets by a fast moving fire in east palo alto. ktvu's t

people you knew. i want to run another clip from that session you had that will get us to the next session about business and government. >> as in business, i think success in government requires an orientation to the customer. the only reason for government to exist is to serve the people. it is important for people in the white house to remember that. i don't know quite why that fact is so easily overlooked. i suppose in business, if you overlook it, you go out of business, but in government, it just goes on and on and on. >> how many years in business? more than 20. i was chief executive over the years. >> how do you characterize the difference between running a for-profit business, stock market, the whole thing, and running a government agency like the department of defense? >> in business, if you do poorly, the business goes out of business. government does not end. government can do quite poorly over a long period of time and it just goes on and on and on. another thing about business is, human beings, unless you are einstein or mozart and you go off by yourself and do something, all the rest of us deal with other peopl

which are being used to kill and injure demonstrators led and in cresent may send you out as more people in jail than any other country and some x. comics say it's because big businesses turn prison into profit led russians witnessing a crackdown on organized crime a police car has been revealed behind brutal murder by some fear the corrupt officials might still get away look and harry potter is a dad though it's not the wizard boy from one of the world's best selling books his unlikely burial site in israel attracts problems and sounds now like. sports news is next with kate. hello welcome to the sports news live from altie in moscow and you are the stories that are making the headlines cup upsets chelsea face everton in a replay people manchester united host normally poorly in the fifth round of football's oldest domestic knockout tournament the f.a. cup. while last battle scotland cosmetics over is set to start the semifinal in six months. and that's out in dubai how long does the ascii awaits the window. there's a little star weekend in the n.b.a. but one manny kamel on to me has been stealing the show so far as the season long trade saugor music and. the first st

right, we use the criminal justice system as a social service center for problems that need to be addressed in other ways. [applause] i think that if people were told by the folks in my businesshat this is not an economically efficient way to do things, they might come around to doing things another way. but there are too many people interested in doing it the way that we did -- a way that we do it to get there. people in my business are not necessarily familiar enough with the criminal justice system to understand what it is the way it is. most of us do not come from this business, we come from the business of making news. i think that is a very difficult question. "the wire" in and of itself is a difficult and controversial question since that program could generate a panel conversation, and i know it has and does. i think the public defender's role,

we've also wanted to make it easy for, you know, small businesses to have and to appropriate, and i have seen it and used it myself. as people who work with me now, i'm not exactly the world's best computer person, and it's pretty easy to operate. so that's part of it. and then lastly, if and when, and we hope it's sooner rather than later, but if and when the congress takes um immigration reform, one of the things we would like to work with congress on are the actual charges that can be brought against employers and the elements of the burden of proof, because the way the statutes are written now, even when we have somebody that everybody knows darn well has been hiring illegal labor, actual hi proving that under the elements, the current statute is very difficult. therefore, it's difficult to get u.s. attorneys to take those cases and so forth. so we look forward to working with the congress on improving those statutes. >> well, likewise, and it takes resources and focus and coming up with a system that is easy to use and relatively low cost to the employer. given our economy, we don't want to burden employers more, but wh