us immigration cases, but has not received any satisfactory explanation. a number of these asylum cases continues to disappear each month. researchers say the us department of justice is making it more difficult to track at juvenile migrant cases, providing information that is not useful or precise, but one sheriff will not keep silent. they've already got what over a $147000.00 juveniles their own company. they need to change their messaging. obviously when you sit there and say that you're going to give individuals money because they were separated at the border, that's just a draw for the cartels and for the criminal element to exploit. so now that's why we see a member of juveniles come across 1st. and then the parents come late because they know that bill they will be reunited. so it's all play on the rules that this and ministration is put into place. the migrant crisis has hung over the biden administration from the beginning. many wonder if there are any real solutions in the works, not just reassuring words. kaleb mop and r t new york. with europe still reeling from the 4th wave of the pandemic, high profile officials are wanting a 5th way this boy to brea

so use the department of justice. use jeffrey clark to draft a letter to georgia's governor and legislative leaders. writing, "at this time we have identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia." now, just to be abundantly clear, that is a lie. it's all lies. but in the absence of anyone else willing to go along with a lie, he gets jeffrey clark at doj. and clark wanted to use the legitimacy of the department of justice to disseminate the lie, to stamp it with doj letterhead, to give it it to georgia's top lawmakers and say maybe you should call a special session to send in your electors. to pressure them to throw out the results of a democratic election and install the loser over the winner. it's the same scheme trump would mention in that phone call to brian kemp. now, of course none of this works. he tries every link in the chain. and with the clock ticking down to the final 48 hours before the electoral votes will be counted on j

they don't care about any of that, they only care about themselves and their willing to use the department of justice, the fbi, the prison, jail, guards in any mean possible to make sure that you never mess with them again. this is wrong it's unusually cruel, i would like to hand over to congressman gomer, congressman gomer was the other only member of congress that was able to tour the jail with me that day because i was only given a little over 15 minutes notice and time to get there that i was good to be allowed to get in. at this time i would like you to hear from congress and gomer. >> thank you margaret, thank you for your work in your efforts. there's no better contrast between what happened in the summer of 2020 and will happen january 6 then the issue of bail. we here for many people that participated in destroying federal building police buildings they were immediately allowed to be released. on the stateside, having been a felony judge. you had to have done something incredibly extreme to have bail so high that you cannot make it especially a nobel situation so extremely rare anybody taugh

. >> jeffrey clark was a key effort within the department of justice using the brand of the departmentr and the misinformation campaign that the former president waged. >> here is what we know. breaking tonight because it would be the second official after bannon. you know what happened to bannon. the vote led to his indictment. first, as scheduled in the next hour, the committee would hold a vote. if they vote on contempt, then congress could vote. if anything like the bannon vote, we expect the democrats would be united there. the big choice falls to doj to decide whether or not to indict a second trump official. in that case, the trump veteran could find himself prosecuted by his own former colleagues at the justice department. quite a quick turnaround. i am wondering what michael steele thinks about why some trump aides are folding and others are taking criminal risks to run and hide. i will ask when he is back with us in just 60 seconds. s back wi us in just 60 seconds. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my g

they only care about themselves and they are willing to use the department of justice, the fbi, the prisons, the jails, the guards and any means possible to make sure that you never mess with them again. this is wrong. it is unusually cruel. now i would like to hand over this time to congressman gomert. he was the only other member of congress able to tour the jail with me that day because i was only given a little over 15 minutes notice in time to get there, that i was going to be allowed to get in. at this time, i would like you to hear from congressman g ohmert. thank you. rep. gohmert: marjorie, thank you for your work and your efforts. there is no better contrast between what happened in the summer 2020 and what happened january 6th than the issue of bail. we hear for many people that participated in destroying federal buildings, police buildings, looting, then that they had no bail. so they were immediately allowed to be released. and yet, we've got people in the d.c. jail who had no bail meaning they can't get out. now, on the stateside, having been a felony judge, you had to have do

reportedly involved in efforts to get georgia to withhold appointing a slate of electors or alternate one using the department of justice for these things trying to get the leadership to make statements about non-existent massive fraud and angling for the top job. this person texting chief of staff thought he got the top job and would be named on monday. >> this is testifying the idea that you had the former chief of staff mark meadows on the phone during some of these calls in georgia which is the subject of a criminal proceeding. at this point, should mark meadows be concerned that he may face criminal lie bltd the same way that trump potentially faces criminal liability for what was done in georgia? >> i don't want to comment on whether meadows might face criminal liability. we have witnesses that are asserting their fifth amendment right because they believe their testimony might incriminate them. they and their counsel have to make these determinations. but i do think that not only the fulton county d.a. but frankly the justice department ought to be investigating the efforts of the former president and people arou

clark, he was the top doj official now possibly facing a contempt of congress charge for his role in trying to use the department of justice trump's behest and that is why the committee is so interested in talking to him. headmeadows introduced clark to trump. and when you look at the footnotes, that is also important because a lot of it is documents on filed with the committee, meadows production, meadows production. he gave this list of documents to the committee and yet won't answer questions about them. which is why we're now at this very possibility of -- >> listen to what they say, right? and he said some things that could have meaning to the investigation. whitney, thanks very much. >>> and cnn has learned the president spoke with senator joe manchin late last week, perhaps a topic of conversation the "build back better" vote. so could president biden put manchin in the yes column? that is next. this is your home. this is your family room slash gym. the guest bedroom slash music studio. the daybed slash dog bed. the living room slash yoga shanti slash regional office slash classroom. and this is the basement slash p

of a pen. the justice department has banned chokeholds, restricted no-knock warrants, required federal agents to wear and activate body cameras. also ending the justice department's useprivate prisons, rescinding previous administration requirements that u.s. attorneys seek the harshest penalties. the justice department has opened a pattern-or-practice investigation into systemic misconduct in police departments in phoenix, louisville, minneapolis, mount vernon, new york. but we're just getting started. this administration is going to continue to fight for meaningful police reform in congress and through additional executive actions. and you will be our next generation of elected officials, police chiefs, civil rights leaders leading the way. you see what just happened in new york city? first black woman, the head of a police department. [applause] with my american rescue plan, which passed right after historic investment in community policing and violence intervention programs that are shown to reduce violence crime -- violent crime as much as 60%. we don't have to spend less money, we have to spend more money on police to give them the kind of help they genuinely n

the senate judiciary report clearly shows that jeffrey clark was a key effort within the department of justice. usingke the fear and the misinformation campaign that the former president waged and the fact that his two superiors have already spoken publicly to the senate committee as well as to us you know, shows us that he shouldn't have anything to hide. but unfortunately, that's what he's afraid of. so we'll exercise the next steps and we'll bring it to the full house floor after the business committee this evening. >> hi, again, everyone. it's 5:00 in new york with perhaps one single exception. donald trump himself, no one did more from inside the cabinet agency charged with maintaining the rule of law in this country to orchestrate a failed coup in the aftermath of the 2020 election than a little known one-time deputy to bill barr, man named jeffrey clark. think of him like this. an in-house legal architect of trump's sinister scheme. the one guy working deep inside the department of justice turning the levers and applying pressure in an effort to overturn the results of a free and fair american

. >> what we will discuss is the role of the department of justice is -- and this was important why we wanted mr. clark to come before us, the role that they used within the department of justice, pressure campaign, on states, on states in contested states to highlight, to produce, alternate slates of electors, all of those pieces were meant just to disrupt, just to create time so they could challenge these -- this frivolous lawsuits that continued to come during that time. all of that was done to continue to raise resources, financially, for them, but also to just disrupt and delay. >> do you think that people who engaged in that activity, would there be any criminal liability there? >> well, i'm not going to speak to that. there are a number of attorneys on our committee, adam schiff -- >> it is important. it is an important question, right? because breaking down the doors of the capitol, i see how that's a criminal activity. trying to overthrow the government, i can see how that's a criminal activity. trying to get states and their legislatures to seat a sham group of electors is unseemly, it may be gross, but i'm no

book talks about what's to come and one is the institutions weaponized against us, one of which is the department of justice launching an all-out assault on all of us, average americans and particularly parents so one of the unique phenomenons that happened around the country as groos roots organization we came to be on the front row to watch is all these parents coming out of the woodwork, getting involved, going to the microphone, being brave enough to stand up. all these parents may not have been conservative voters before. >> probably not. >> may be new to the fold so what can we do to bridge the gap right now between where we want to go with the conservative, america first, public policy agenda, and examining that energy that is so palpable right now? i think one of the beauties is we have more tools than ever before. when i was growing up we had news papers, write letters to the editor but that was it, and i know. i have a bunch of framed news papers my kids are like where did those come from? but i think one feel of the things you have the ability, i love tweeting out just fun fact of the day or some

used the f.b.i. to spy on abuse of fisa process, used the f.b.i. to spy on president trump's campaign. two months ago -- two months ago, the department of justice using the counterterrorism division at the f.b.i. to put a threat tag, a label, a designation on parents who had the gall to speak up at a school board meeting, speak up against some crazy curriculum. and now, now they're destroying executive privilege. now they're attacking that. this might be the worst. destroying a precedent that has been around since george washington and treating mark meadows as a criminal. mark meadows is our former colleague. he is a good man. and he's my friend. and this is -- this is as wrong as it gets. i think deep down, everyone knows it. i think they know it as well. they know this is wrong. we've all served with this guy. he's done more work with democrats than probably any republican. we all know what a good man he is. and this is as wrong as it gets. you all know it. but your lust for power, your lust to get your opponents is so intent, you don't care. i hope you reconsider. i hope we don't take this action. madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro

the weaponization of the department of justice, welcomed foreign interference into our election and the use of power to protect his allies and himself. when congress sought to hold him accountable, he brought stonewalling to a new level and titus up in courts for years as he -- tied us up in courts for years. that is why the protecting our democracy act is so urgently needed. after watergate, congress learned the lesson of the nixon administration and enacted landmark reforms to prevent the future president from abusing the power of the presidency as nixon had. the trumpet administration systematically worked to erode transparency, evade accountability and upset the system of checks and balances. it is so fundamental to our democratic order. it has become clear that a new set of reforms is necessary. many provisions draw directly on our -- they are not anti-trump measures. they are forward-looking. they protect against future abuses by any president of any party. i am especially proud of the reforms within this bill within the dish era committee's -- judiciary committee's jurisdiction. we r

used the f.b.i. to spy on abuse of fisa process, used the f.b.i. to spy on president trump's campaign. two months ago -- two months ago, the department of justice using the counterterrorism division at the f.b.i. to put a threat tag, a label, a designation on parents who had the gall to speak up at a school board meeting, speak up against some crazy curriculum. and now, now they're destroying executive privilege. now they're attacking that. this might be the worst. destroying a precedent that has been around since george washington and treating mark meadows as a criminal. mark meadows is our former colleague. he is a good man. and he's my friend. and this is -- this is as wrong as it gets. i think deep down, everyone knows it. i think they know it as well. they know this is wrong. we've all served with this guy. he's done more work with democrats than probably any republican. we all know what a good man he is. and this is as wrong as it gets. you all know it. but your lust for power, your lust to get your opponents is so intent, you don't care. i hope you reconsider. i hope we don't take this action. madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro

of a pen. the justice department has band choke holded, restricted no-knock warrants. it's also ending the justice department's useing previous administration requirements that u.s. attorneys seek the harshest penalties. the justice department has opened a pattern and practice of investigation in systemic misconduct of police departments in phoenix, minneapolis, mt. vernon, new york, but we're just getting started. this administration is going to continue to fight for meaningful police reform in congress and lu additional actions. and you'll be our next generation of elected officials. police chiefs, civil rights leaders, leading the way. you see what just happened in new york city? first black woman, the head of the police department. with my american rescue plan passed after historic investment in community policing and violence intervention programs. they're shown to reduce violent crimes as much as 60%. we need to spend money to give the police the help they genuinely need. why is a police officer showing up to the suicide threat of someone threatening to jump off a building? we need more social workers there.

specifically about efforts to install former justice department official jeffrey clark as acting attorney general. clark was really open to the idea of usingf that office, to push the big lie. perry actually connected trump and clark at the same time the former president was really trying to pressure the justice department to do something to help him establish this lie, that the election was stolen. this underscores how trump is zeroing in on allies. >> he sues everyone and everything, but he is suing the new york attorney general, laity s letitia james. why? >> he is asking them to block the long-running civil investigation into the trump organization. two years, they've been investigating whether the trump organization misrepresented its assets to get better loan terms, better insurance rates and, of course, to pay lower taxes. her investigation mirrors a sim similar criminal investigation by the attorney general that already resulted in charges against the organization and one of its executives. now, interestingly, the timing on this lawsuit, this comes as james is seeking to depose the former president under oath next month. now, trump

public reporting has shown that a key part of that effort was hatched by trump and a justice department official named jeff clark, who wanted to try to use the power of the u.s. justice department to essentially force or induce states that trump lost to nevertheless give trump their electoral votes. jeff clark, that previously low profile former justice department official, he has refused to comply with subpoenas in this investigation, just like trump adviser steve bannon has. bannon, as you know, has already been hit with criminal federal charges for rejecting those subpoenas. well, tonight, just before we got on the air, the january 6th investigation released its formal report on jeff clark rejecting their subpoenas. they're going to vote on this report tomorrow at the end of the day, if passed as prologue, the vote will probably be overwhelming if not unanimous, jeff clark should be referred to the u.s. justice department for potential prosecution, just as they referred steve bannon for potential prosecution and doj ultimately followed up and brought that indictment. here's part of what the report says about why jeff clark got subpoen

us. that means the department of justice can't sue us. those lawsuits can't be brought.ue the texas attorney general, some state officials, but these providers can come in to sue a small subset of state officials. and the reason abortion providers aren't really enthusiastic at all about this ruling is that it's kind of a piecemeal approach because it means that those so-called bounty hunters, anyone in texas can bring a lawsuit against anyone they think is aiding a woman to get an abortion. those lawsuits can continue, and doctors looking at today's opinion, and looking at the fact that the supreme court didn't block this law outright, they still may be nervous about starting this procedure up again, no matter what happens in the court. they still may be worried because the supreme court allowed it to remain in effect. so you had chief justice john roberts and the liberals here saying that the court should have gone further. it should have allowed more -- it should have allowed the providers to sue a larger number of officials and you had justice sonia sotomayor still la

be a bridge too far to say, yes, meadows is someone they should recommend to the department of justice. >> briefly, given us a quick breakdown of what meadows' argument is here and also what we should expect today. >> it's twofold. as a former official, he is still protected by executive privilege, and also as his side sees it, the justice department's position is they cannot seek testimony as the committee is seeking to do here. as to whether or not that will bring him to testify remains to be seen. you know, the committee is still moving forward with, you know, trying to interview hundreds of witnesses, going through thousands of pages of documents, and we'll see the results of that hopefully soon. >> all right. nicholas wu, congressional board of politico. thanks so much for being here. >>> still ahead, the air force starts discharging active duty servicemembers who refuse to get vaccinated against covid-19. >>> plus, after a long legal batter, victims of larry nassar reach a settlement. those stories when we come back live from washington, d.c. back live from washington, d.c. feeling sluggish or weighed

again, the argument that this is a violation of the us constitution and civil liberties. so the department of justice is challenging. 2 this, but we are seeing this on a number of levels in a number of sectors of the government where people are pushing back. and that's the challenge for this white house right now. there are the 10s of millions of americans who are fully vaccinated with 2 shots, but are not yet boosted. so that by the administration is putting in a public health campaign trying to get a 100000000 americans to get that 3rd shot. but again, facing some resistance, not only by conservatives, but many america, her now wondering why they even need the shot. given the fact that we're seeing so many breakthrough paces from those that are considered to be fully vaccine. that's a challenge for the white house as well. so one more quick, more thing that we should mention at the start of the week, no signs of honor cried buried in the united states now up to 5 different states. and what the concern is is that those numbers of infections are continuing to rise up 4 percent just the last 2 weeks.

of this. a president being a bad guy is one thing and then being able to use the bureau of prisons and the justice department to pluck enemies out of their homes, shackle them and throw them in jail without legitimate cause, that is a blaring red siren, not just what it means to have a bad person in power but what it means to have a government bent to that person's will and to have a government that is insufficiently independent and governed by ethics and law, that an unscrupulous leader can plout the u.s. in that way for their own purposes. that's a big blaring right siren hp and i'd always felt about that case that because it michael cohen and because there's so much drama around michael cohen, i felt like that case never taken all that seriously. this new lawsuit is a sfl case brought by mr. cohen. we will see what happens with this case. i found myself wondering whether the national republican party might also pick up donald trump's legal fees for that case. right? i mean, trump's the named defendant here. we just found out that the national republican party is paying trump's legal fees. in the alleged b

justice department official is pleading the fifth. that's a big deal. it's not an admission of guilt in a literal sense, but it means that clark, who used to be part of theeasonably believes that he could be prosecuted for scheming with trump and others to overturn the 2020 election. that is not a thing that happens often, if ever. let's not forget what clark's would-be co-conspirator said about people who take the fifth. >> the mob takes the fifth. if you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment? >> joining me now is congressman adam schiff of california. he is a member of the house select committee on the january 6 attack and chairman of house intelligence committee. thank you congressman schiff for being here. i'm just going to read a little bit from jeffrey clark's letter to your committee. mr. clark has a reasonable basis for believing that his testimony before the committee could be used against him in a criminal prosecution. i personally have never heard of a former justice department official who apparently reasonably believes that he either did commit a crime or would be accused of one. have you? and how big of a deal is that in your

evidently had some role in trying to install jeffrey clark at the top of the justice department, when reportedly there are efforts to useartment to get georgia and other states to not send electors or send an alternate slate of electors. he reportedly was also involved in, you know, these conspiracy theories about dominion voting systems and had communications with the white house chief of staff including unencrypted apps. why is he unwilling to talk to congress about that? if it is above board, why he is unwilling to talk to congress? >> we should say there's quite a bit of public reporting that he was a key sort of intermediary with sort of getting jeffrey clark, who, of course, was at the department of justice and sort of plotted directly with the president to overthrow the acting attorney general at the time and to send out these letters saying, oh, we found fraud in your state, you can just have another election or send your electors. we know that perry was involved in some way with clark, right? that's pretty established. >> you know, on the basis of testimony that we've received, we have good faith reason to beli

. >> do you believe the evidence uncovered by your committee could be used by the department of justice to obtain a probable cause warrant for the records that you know mark meadows has but has not yet handed over? is this one way that could play out? >> you know, i don't want to speak for the department of justice. they would need a criminal case against mr. meadows in order to advance that. we're now pursuing the criminal contempt, and i think we've laid out the case. whether or not the department of justice is pursuing other matters, they're very tight-lipped. it's not appropriate for prosecutors to discuss who they're prosecuting or who they're investigating. you do that either by an indictment or deciding you don't have a case. and all of that is done to protect the reputation of individuals. so i don't know what they're up to, but this is a separate matter. the committee needs to find these facts not only to report to the american people, but also to inform us as to what further legislative steps we'll need to take to help prevent something like this from ever happening again. we

used the f.b.i. to spy on abuse of fisa process, used the f.b.i. to spy on president trump's campaign. two months ago -- two months ago, the department of justice using the counterterrorism division at the f.b.i. to put a threat tag, a label, a designation on parents who had the gall to speak up at a school board meeting, speak up against some crazy curriculum. and now, now they're destroying executive privilege. now they're attacking that. this might be the worst. destroying a precedent that has been around since george washington and treating mark meadows as a criminal. mark meadows is our former colleague. he is a good man. and he's my friend. and this is -- this is as wrong as it gets. i think deep down, everyone knows it. i think they know it as well. they know this is wrong. we've all served with this guy. he's done more work with democrats than probably any republican. we all know what a good man he is. and this is as wrong as it gets. you all know it. but your lust for power, your lust to get your opponents is so intent, you don't care. i hope you reconsider. i hope we don't take this action. madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro

department of justice official, jeffrey clark. clark while at the justice department was a big proponent of using the power of that department to helpcular text message, someone is referencing rumblings that clark could potentially be appointed acting attorney general, and this unnamed person texts meadows saying, quote, that's amazing. i'm personally so proud you are at the tip of the sphere. now, the committee emphasizing it's clearly important to talk to meadows about this, especially if he was the, quote, tip of the spear for some effort to install a trump loyalist at the top of the justice department. now, there's more, including another text message from approximately november 4th, so after the election, where an unnamed lawmaker texts meadows with a strategy for how to help trump potentially just toss it to the supreme court to figure out who won the election. one of the committee members explains what they found. >> on november 4th, a member of this body wrote to meadows, here's an aggressive strategy one day after the election. why can't the states of george, north carolina, pennsylvania, and other republican-controlled sta

of power of voting system, threatening parents at school board meetings using power of deputy of justice to destroy -- departmentice to destroy women's sports, i can say more but i want to get to part two of president of united states, compare the records, there is no comparison, an effort by media and rino and never-trumpers to distraction you. >> >> biden, you say he will go down as worst president in history? >> look at what he has done. the people around him have done, do you think that election a few weeks ago was a reaction to him as well as all of these crazy marxist ideologies, critical race theory biden is forcing our military members to learn some digest it. biden is in bed with the teachers unions that promote the same thing. they didn't like you all that much. you pushed for school choice. you also pushed for liberty and entrepreneurship in the black community and minority communities more than biden or obama had done. you got an increase vote in black and hispanic community. >> and criminal justice reform. mark: can you think of anything biden has done that has united the country? that has helped mi

entire senior leadership of the justice department besides clark said they would resignen masse if he went forward with this. but he is the key person in pushing the scheme, usejustice department to overturn the election results. >> and there is also a text telling meadows to check his signal, an encrypted app, another messaging app. if you think what we are seeing is damning and revealing, imagine what the signal would show. >> yeah. the signal messages we will probably never see. they are probably already long gone. certainly there's that. and also, brianna, consider this. the messages that have been turned over here by meadows are all from his personal cell phones. so this is his -- he had two different gmail accounts we now know he was using. he was obviously somebody who texted frequently. but this is just his personal devices. we still don't know what is on the official white house cell phone that he was issued. we don't know what was on his official government email. but he was clearly conducting quite a bit of business here with these personal devices and personal accounts. >> right. the national archives situation with the supreme court deciding whet

former chief of staff, mark meadows, in contempt of congress and to refer potential charges to the us justice refer potential charges to the usjustice department justice department after he failed to comply with a subpoena to testify committee looking into the events of january six. committee looking into the events ofjanuary six.- events ofjanuary six. ok, david willis, _ events ofjanuary six. ok, david willis, thank - events ofjanuary six. ok, david willis, thank you . events ofjanuary six. ok, i david willis, thank you very much for being with us. the british socialite, ghislaine maxwell, who's facing sex trafficking charges in the united states, has told the court she won't be giving evidence. ms maxwell said there was no need to testify because the prosecution had failed to prove her guilt beyond reasonable doubt. she denies grooming girls for the late convicted paedophile, jeffrey epstein. our correspondent nada tawfik has been outside the courthouse in new york. the defence has rested its case today and it comes after ghislaine maxwell decided not to take the stand in her own defence. as she stood up and addressed the judge, she said th

clark pressed's department of justice superiors to use agency authorities to challenge election results. we have received evidence from multiple witnesses, that you had an important role in the efforts to install mr. clark's acting attorney general. perry responded this morning saying quote, i declined this entities request, and will continue to fight the failures, of the radical capitol left. tonight the committee is indicating a firm response to perry's resistant, to talk about that in one moment with a committee member adam schiff. it's just another sign of how serious this investigation is getting. remember, as the new york times reported last, night the committee is recommending, donald trump himself face federal criminal charges. adam schiff of california, is a member of the house select committee, he's also the lead impeachment manager donald trump's first impeachment. he joins me now. congressman, let's talk about congressman scott perry. obviously this is interesting. and i feel like almost uncharted waters. i'm trying to rack my brain, for a similar situation, in which you had

result in the weaponization of allegations of attorney misconduct within the department of justice and that this could be usedn circumstances to intimidate, threaten, and harass department of justice attorneys, including prosecutors from either taking or not taking actions or in retaliation to the same is always a concern. it's a concern that follows government generally. it's in particular a concern that follows federal prose prosecutors. it's also not a concern that is unique to the inspector general's access act with or without passage of this. there is always a risk of that happening. nothing about that risk that we immunize ourselves from by leaving intact the loophole, and it is a loop hole. it is a carve yowlt of section 8e of the inspector general act. it is a loophole. my friend from a.e.c. is right, it's not unintended. it is intentionally created. it was there for a reason. i don't mean to suggest any nefarious motive on the part of those who created it. but i think it might have been a shortsighted move at the time. it's a move that at least in time has exposed a certain vulnerability and democrat

fleas but it's a much bigger problem, for all of us, if any president, so motivated, can employ the federal bureau of prisons and the department of justice to carry out that kind of retaliation, with all the power and compulsory force of the united states government. i mean, trump might have loved to say "lock her up" about hillary clinton and threatened during the debates in 2016 that if he became president, she'd find herself in jail. he never did that, of course, but he did actually lock up michael cohen, and a federal judge ruled that the reason michael cohen was locked up was because of retaliation against him for criticizing trump. they actually put him in prison for doing that. that's what a federal judge says what happened when he ordered cohen freed. now, mr. cohen filed a new lawsuit against trump and also, importantly, against trump's last attorney general william bar who was head of the justice department at the time this happened, also filed a suit against a whole variety of federal officials involved in this mess. i know it may seem like a sort of new chapter in the on going michael cohen saga, i know, the personalities her

with us for more is department of justice veteran and former acting solicitor general for the obama administrationens of cases before the supreme court. we always turn to you when we have complicated issues. scott perry is a member of the united states congress, a duly consequenced committee asked him to come forward with information he has. they haven't subpoenaed him. he came back with a wild swinging response that calls them left radicals and talks about afghanistan and all this stuff but not interested in participating with them. >> right, this isn't that harde you're saying. he would rather abolish the department of justice than co-opt it. that is scott perry what he's trying to do. he worked with jeffrey clark of the justice department to try to plot a coup. it's not surprising in a sense he's afraid to cooperate and, you know, the theme of all of these stories is these people are refusing to go and tell the truth under oath because they're afraid of what congress might find and you have to break every norm in the book to reach where scott perry is. this is his own body saying congress, we w

relevant information and instead of endeavor to cover, up the select committee will consider seeking such information using other quotes. >> neil cocktail, department of justice general during the obama administration who has argued dozens of cases before the united states supreme court. neil, we always turn to you when we have these complicated issues. the shouldn't be that complicated. scott perry is a member of the united states congress. he is a duly constituted committee and they asked him to come forward with information. they have been subpoenaed him. but he came back with this wild swing in response that calls them left this relic calls and talks about afghanistan. but he is not interested in participating with them. >> right. this isn't that hard. it's exactly for the reason you're saying. scott perry is not to be confused with rick perry who would probably rather abolish the department of justice than co-opted and turn it into the department of insurrection. that is scott perry. he is the guy who worked with jeffrey clark of the justice department to try and flawed a coup. and it's not surprising that he is afraid to cooperate. the theme of all of t

six lawmakers now want to question one of their own, about efforts to use the justice department, to big lie. justice department, to support the big lie. the big lie. crest, the official toothpaste of santa. follow us @crest to celebrate the 12 days of crest smiles. facing expensive vitamin c creams with dull results? olay brightens it up with new olay vitamin c. gives you two times brighter skin. hydrates better than the $400 cream. mister president, sadly i reject to my beloved commonwealth of pennsylvania, on the grounds of multiple constitutional infractions, that they were not under all of the no circumstances, regularly given. >> pennsylvania congressman scott perry, was in the thick of it on january six, objecting to electors from his own state, as part of the effort to keep donald trump in office. now the january six committee wants to ask him about recorded plans, to elevate jeffrey clark to the position of attorney general. perry might be the first elected official to come under public scrutiny, from the select committee. but likely won't be the last. as we mentioned, the ne

stay with us. >>> today the justice department has filed suit against the state of texas for violating of the voting rights act. texas has violated section 2 by creating redistricting plans that deny or abridge the rights of latino and black voters to vote on account of their race, color, or membership in a language minority group. >> texas' population grew by 4 million people from 2010 to 2020. 95% of that growth came from minority populations. texas will gain two new congressional seats because of its population growth. almost all of which is due to growth in the state's minority population. however, texas has designed both of those new seats to have white voting majorities. the justice department will not stand idly by in the face of unlawful attempts to restrict access to the ballot. >> attorney general merrick garland and the senior justice department official vanita gupta announcing today the justice department will sue the state of texas over that state's new republican drawn electoral maps. we've been covering on this show the ways those new texas congressional maps really flag

cnn justice correspondent evan perez joins us now from the justice department, evan, what's the basis of that the legislative maps, the maps for both house and the legislative elections violates section 2 of the voting rights act. the attorney general says that based on the population growth in the last ten years in texas, the new maps do not reflect what should be the increased voting power of latino residents in texas. take a listen to what he said at the press conference just a little while ago. >> complaint filed today alleges that texas has violated section 2 by creating redistricting plans that deny or abridge the rights of latino and black voters to vote on account of their race, color or membership in a language minority group. >> and according to the lawsuit, texas added about 4 million people in the last ten years according to the census. 95% of that population growth came from latino voters or latinos in texas. texas got two congressional districts as a result of that, and both of those districts were drawn with majority white voters, according to the justice department and th

about, including efforts to install former justice department official jeffrey clark as the acting attorney general. clark was very open to the idea of usingartment to push the big lie, and perry actually connected trump and clark at a time when trump was pressuring the justice department to find evidence that the election was stolen. now it's not clear how much new information or any information at all that the committee will get from perry. they have not responded yet to his declaration. but there is other stuff going on with the committee right now. they're continuing to investigate other aspects. we know they are not shying away even from potential criminal referrals. representative adam kinzinger told jake tapper over the weekend they are looking at former president trump may have acted criminally, what crimes potentially. liz cheney has raised the possibility of obstructing an official proceeding. "the new york times" is reporting that they're also potentially looking at wire fraud. look, kate, these kinds of crimes, and this would take a lot of evidence, something in the justice department, if they had a referral, would have to prov

us his degree of exposure here? >> well, look, i think it's very important to remember the context here. this is jeffrey clark who is one of the senior officials at the justice department, and environmental law. the environmental division. and trump moved to make him the acting attorney general in early january. the acting attorney general because he promised to use the power of the justice department to force these states to effectively overturn the election. he was only stopped, trump was only stopped from placing him as the acting attorney general when he faced the reality of it the entire senior staff of the justice department. basically every other senior official besides mr. clark were going to resign en masse if he was made the acting attorney general and donald trump back then. that was on january 2nd. now you have him coming before this committee, and signaling that he is going to invoke the fifth amendment. the committee will go through, and they will ask him question after question after question, and he will need to, if he intends to, and vote the fifth amendment over and over again. this is the question of the appearance here, what does it look like when y