to reason and there is plenty that is counter intuitive, a closer look at suicide joining us from hall tallahassee, coauthor of families under fire. >> were you surprised that things like deployment didn't have much impact on those who decided to end their lives? >> yes, the first surprise of the study was that the increase and the suicide rate was equally as high among people who never deployed as those who had deployed. prior to that time we just thought it was a knee-jerk reaction. >> between male and female personnel? >> well, there are differences in suicide rates among men and women. and men have higher suicide rates than women could do. that's true in the civilian world as well as the military. the striking difference is the suicide rate of men who are deployed is roughly 50% higher than the suicide rate of male soldiers who never deployed. among women it's 300% as high among the deployed as among the never deployed. there seems to be something that is more highly associated, more distressing did deployment among women than men. this does not account for the substantial part o problem, buts