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abc's alex marquardt is live for us in johannesburg. alex? >> good evening, dan. rofound sense of loss and mourning that has swept the entire country. what's really remarkable are celebrations like this one right outside mandela's home that we've seen spring up around the country. south africans marking the passing of this great man by celebrating his life. when the news broke tonight of mandela's death, south africans of all stripes flocked to mandela's home. young, old, white, black. ♪ they danced. they sang old songs of struggle from the apartheid era. >> i think we should celebrate what he has achieved and what he has given us. i wouldn't be free without him. >> reporter: but some who showed up to pay their respects were overcome with grief. >> i'm disappointed. i'm sad. but at the same time, i think he's had his part in life and he did it very well. >> reporter: these scenes swept across the country, growing into the wee hours of the morning after president jacob zuma broke the news to the nation and to the world. >> he's now at peace. our nation has lost its
abc's alex marquardt is live for us in johannesburg. alex? >> good evening, dan. rofound sense of loss and mourning that has swept the entire country. what's really remarkable are celebrations like this one right outside mandela's home that we've seen spring up around the country. south africans marking the passing of this great man by celebrating his life. when the news broke tonight of mandela's death, south africans of all stripes flocked to mandela's home. young, old, white, black....
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in a moment. joining us new nbc news african reporter live outside of the home of mandela in johannesburg. set the scene for us. >> reporter: well take a look. it really is quite an incredible scene. when we got here late yesterday evening after we heard initial reports that nelson mandela might have passed away, there was an incredibly somber mood but that didn't last very long at all. it took just a few hours and overnight the crowd grew, and it turned into something of a party. why a party? because well in every sense this is a celebration, a celebration of nelson mandela's life. also a celebration of the lives that ordinary south africans have been able to live as a consequence that nelson mandela made. yes, people were sad. many people are somber. yes one or two people out of
in a moment. joining us new nbc news african reporter live outside of the home of mandela in johannesburg. set the scene for us. >> reporter: well take a look. it really is quite an incredible scene. when we got here late yesterday evening after we heard initial reports that nelson mandela might have passed away, there was an incredibly somber mood but that didn't last very long at all. it took just a few hours and overnight the crowd grew, and it turned into something of a party. why a...
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al jazeera's correspondent is in johannesburg to tell us what is taking place in johannesburg today. >> we saw many singing and dancing. a few of us were taken aback a few minutes ago. a young girl came with her father. she looked about 10 years old. she left flowers behind the wall. this is the township of sow wetto. she burst into tears. we got a sense of while everyone is celebrating his life, i think the shock of his death has hit a lot of people in south africa. it's becoming early morning, and the sun will be out soon. more people will leave their house, go to work. people will get a sense of impact that it's having on the country. the next few hours will be interesting. generally the incentive of the people is yes, he is gone. we'll love and miss him. they'll try to celebrate all he has done. >> you talked eloquently earlier. i'd like to get your comments again about how protective the people of south africa are about the legacy of nelson mandela, and as he got more sick, how they were concerned that journalists not intrude. can you talk about that a little bit. >> yes, it was
al jazeera's correspondent is in johannesburg to tell us what is taking place in johannesburg today. >> we saw many singing and dancing. a few of us were taken aback a few minutes ago. a young girl came with her father. she looked about 10 years old. she left flowers behind the wall. this is the township of sow wetto. she burst into tears. we got a sense of while everyone is celebrating his life, i think the shock of his death has hit a lot of people in south africa. it's becoming early...
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in johannesburg. these celebrations have been going on for days now. walk using to be happening in the week to come. >> reporter: craig, this is just the beginning. it's a huge outpouring of emotion here and in hundreds of other places across the country. we're just down the street from nelson mandela's home across there. i can remember being here on so many occasions over the years where there was a vigil, wondering how he was doing. as you know, he was ill for many years. and now the inevitable has finally come. this is the beginning. there are events that will take place over the next week or so culminating on the 15th with a state funeral in nelson mandela's home on the eastern cape, part of this country, several hours flight time from here. in the meantime, before that, there will be a day of national reflection and prayer tomorrow on sunday. then tuesday, a huge memorial service at a football stadium, a soccer stadium that seats some 80,000 people here in johannesburg. that's when world leaders from around the globe will come here, including president ob
in johannesburg. these celebrations have been going on for days now. walk using to be happening in the week to come. >> reporter: craig, this is just the beginning. it's a huge outpouring of emotion here and in hundreds of other places across the country. we're just down the street from nelson mandela's home across there. i can remember being here on so many occasions over the years where there was a vigil, wondering how he was doing. as you know, he was ill for many years. and now the...
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in johannesburg to sing his praises. we have extensive coverage of nelson mandela's life and legacy. first we'll go to deborah in johannesburg tonight, deborah, how has this unfolded for us this evening? >> reporter: well, scott, for 26 weeks south africans have lived with the knowledge that nelson mandela was gravely ill. first the three month hospitalization and then he was sent to his home to see out his final days because there was nothing more doctor could do for him. a few days ago his wife realized he was deteriorating even further. and actually summoned the family to his bedside. and many of them were there earlier this evening and able to say their final good-byes to him before his death. and eventually that announcement from president jacob zuma that nelson mandela had died shortly before midnight south african time. outside his home many south africans have gathered, both black and white. fitting that it is both black and white because they are what nelson mandela was all about, that both races should equally mourn this man, so loved and adored in south africa. >> pelley: deborah , mandela retired from public life way back in 2004. what impact will this have o
in johannesburg to sing his praises. we have extensive coverage of nelson mandela's life and legacy. first we'll go to deborah in johannesburg tonight, deborah, how has this unfolded for us this evening? >> reporter: well, scott, for 26 weeks south africans have lived with the knowledge that nelson mandela was gravely ill. first the three month hospitalization and then he was sent to his home to see out his final days because there was nothing more doctor could do for him. a few days ago...
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let's talk more about that now bring back in robyn curnow in johannesburg for us live, robin. >> reporterre. you know, when you do talk about nelson mandela, you think of you know an iconic leader. are they born or bred? we know nelson mandela's leadership was honed in prison. it was kind of a university for him that he used that time to think to look ahead to prepare but he also know intrinsically he learns a lot of those lessons as a tribal boy listening to the elder chiefs. so he was this enig ma when you talk to people. within i watched him, he was a combination of a life long rebel, an aristocrat. he was also a world statesman. what was also clear, he wasn't idealistic. he was very pragmatic and comfortable with contra dictions. take a listen to this. >> with your right hand say, so help me good. >> so help me god. >> when mr. mandela was amellior rated as the first president, i wish we had said look, i really if i di now i mean there's nothing that is ever going to be able to top this. >> archbishop tutu acknowledging when nelson mandela was inaugurated as the first black president
let's talk more about that now bring back in robyn curnow in johannesburg for us live, robin. >> reporterre. you know, when you do talk about nelson mandela, you think of you know an iconic leader. are they born or bred? we know nelson mandela's leadership was honed in prison. it was kind of a university for him that he used that time to think to look ahead to prepare but he also know intrinsically he learns a lot of those lessons as a tribal boy listening to the elder chiefs. so he was...
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>> richard engel in johannesburg to start us off tonight. richard, thanks. >>> this morning in new york i spoke with former president bill clinton about the loss of his friend nelson mandela, and the legacy he leaves behind for the rest of the world. >> mandela lived in a global age of communications. he basically lit up the world with the fact that he seemed to move effortlessly through life with a smile on his face and a genuine concern for ordinary people along with his heavy duties. every day he got up and found the strength to leave his anger, hurt, and his regrets behind. >> reporter: what's the most indelible time of all the personal time -- and you had some intense personal time with him. is there any one that you can separate out? >> yes. one day when i was having all this conflicts with republicans in congress we were talking. i was glad to see him. i said, you know, it was a good thing did inviting your jailers to your inauguration and the reconciliation stuff, but how did you get there? he said, i remember it clearly. one day i re
>> richard engel in johannesburg to start us off tonight. richard, thanks. >>> this morning in new york i spoke with former president bill clinton about the loss of his friend nelson mandela, and the legacy he leaves behind for the rest of the world. >> mandela lived in a global age of communications. he basically lit up the world with the fact that he seemed to move effortlessly through life with a smile on his face and a genuine concern for ordinary people along with his...
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us mandela when the former trend state eritrean july eighteen nineteen eighteen. nelson mandela was meant to become a tribal chief. just like his father. instead he became an aliya in the first thought legal practice in johannesburg. he joined the african national congress korean sea in nineteen forty four. apartheid was introduced for use later. his practice monday that was exposed to the new manatees of apartheid on that day basis. and he decided to fly back to the norm finances the strategy was first arrested in nineteen fifty six and prosecuted on treason charges which relate to trial two years later he married and elaine cia to this we need. a turning point in mind that it's two against apartheid came in nineteen sixty additional two massacre police gunned down sixteen million pounds contract demonstrates is the dominant bit goofy. it is used in the future. for us to put it up with these unknown buyer the government was proud. he is on the subject text. i'm trying to defend his feet london and therefore prone to do and going to waste you wait a minute reel seat of the anc. he was arrested again in nineteen sixty two and try to present iphone type activities. then it was sentenced to life imprisonment in nine
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in johannesburg. that's where ali velshi joins us from now outside. good morning. what are you seeing there right now? >> not a single, single tear in the place. it is just after 9 o'clock in the morning. this memorial service will not start for a couple of hours. people have been streaming in. buses have been coming in. they have been coming in on taxis. we are in soweto. if you look over my shoulder you can see the area where the goldmining was done and is the most populous part of jofi joseph, this is first national bank stadium. soccer stadium, where the final game of the world cup was played in 2010. it was the last time nelson mandela made a public appearance. people are streaming in here. there's a lot of indian faces. and then we saw this face. this woman has come here from dong democratic republic of congo and when you heard that nelson mandela died you made in beautiful death. >> thank you very much. i'm staying here. i'm usually here. when i heard that he was admitted to the hospital i couldn't stay in congo. i came. it's a pleasure for me to be here >> y
in johannesburg. that's where ali velshi joins us from now outside. good morning. what are you seeing there right now? >> not a single, single tear in the place. it is just after 9 o'clock in the morning. this memorial service will not start for a couple of hours. people have been streaming in. buses have been coming in. they have been coming in on taxis. we are in soweto. if you look over my shoulder you can see the area where the goldmining was done and is the most populous part of jofi...
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us. you are a former correspondent in johannesburg and yourself had a chance to meet and interview nelson mandela several times. do you have a particular memory or something about him that strikes you the most? all at theuck us time was his extraordinary warmth. he clearly loved human company it was very striking. after 27 years in prison he had been deprived of the things that normal family life means to any political leader. when he remembers sitting under a tree in his garden for a press conference, that is the kind of thing he would do, sit on a chair with the press sitting on the grass around him. it was not dreamed up by some public relations specialist. he had a natural authority for leadership and he enjoyed the presidents of other people. i think that that came up, time and time again, we all had the real privilege, crosses warmth and enjoyment of company. for foreign company correspondents. he was having a lovely time telling stories about his childhood and how they used to steal the chickens from the backyard, chasing each other backwards and forwards with chickens, telling the
us. you are a former correspondent in johannesburg and yourself had a chance to meet and interview nelson mandela several times. do you have a particular memory or something about him that strikes you the most? all at theuck us time was his extraordinary warmth. he clearly loved human company it was very striking. after 27 years in prison he had been deprived of the things that normal family life means to any political leader. when he remembers sitting under a tree in his garden for a press...
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in johannesburg. ali, set the scene for us literally hours before the event tomorrow in johannesburg. >> well it's gone cold, tony, it's raining tonight in johannesburg. it was a clear day. police were setting up barricades and rerouting. you could see dignitaries coming in and police convoys. as you said jimmy carter is here as well. george w. bush, bill clinton will be here, world leaders from all over the place. i had a chance to sit down with jimmy carter, who knew nelson mandela very well. he was on the same plane coming down. he said in all the times he knew nelson mandela, he never said thank you to the u.s. government to end apartheid. here's why. >> i would say i had many talks with nelson mandela. i never heard him say, that he was grateful to the united states. he was grateful to cuba, he was grateful to others that spoke up for him while he was still in prison. he was grateful to the people that condemned the apartheid regime. but i don't think that he felt that his freedom and the change that took place in south africa was attributable to the united states. >> and of course, it wasn't just
in johannesburg. ali, set the scene for us literally hours before the event tomorrow in johannesburg. >> well it's gone cold, tony, it's raining tonight in johannesburg. it was a clear day. police were setting up barricades and rerouting. you could see dignitaries coming in and police convoys. as you said jimmy carter is here as well. george w. bush, bill clinton will be here, world leaders from all over the place. i had a chance to sit down with jimmy carter, who knew nelson mandela very...
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ronnie kasrils is with us for the hour in johannesburg, leaving a tripartite activist -- ,eading anti-apartheidactivist was a top military official under president nelson mandela. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. our guest for the hour is ronnie kasrils, former top military official under president mandela , was in the anc executive committee for 20 years and also served as the minister of intelligence under president and becky. i want to turn back to a rare televised interview with nelson mandela and he was already in hiding. it was in 1961. >> we have made it very clear in our policy that south africa is a country of many races. >> that was nelson mandela in hiding in 1961. ronnie kasrils, can you talk about the conditions on the ground, why nelson mandela and so many others got involved in the underground to fight apartheid, and as you mentioned his arrest, the role of the united states and that arrest? the role of an infiltrator in the cia? course, if you were of any color in south africa
ronnie kasrils is with us for the hour in johannesburg, leaving a tripartite activist -- ,eading anti-apartheidactivist was a top military official under president nelson mandela. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. our guest for the hour is ronnie kasrils, former top military official under president mandela , was in the anc executive committee for 20 years and also served as the...
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used to live in soweto. mourners bring flowers and continue to sing and dance to celebrate his life. he died at the age of 95. we're live in johannesburgremind us of the significance of that particular location. >> well, this was essentially the nerve center. it was here that nelson mandela stayed for a number of months. it was the armed wing of the anc of the they would gather and meet to discuss strategies, what to do and where to go next. nelson mandela was dedicated to speak to a senior anc member at that particular time. other members of the anc were here. 50 years ago. the police raided the farm. many were arrested. we had the trial, the moment in the country's history, the scene of his very famous speech. among those who would have faced trial was harold wolkey. he fled overseas into exile. his son, nic nicholas is now the trustee and he joins me now. nicholas, what type of legacy do you think has been left by these giants like mandela and others? >> i think the legacy that they have left comes down to selfless sacrifice. the desire to bring about a change, putting their own needs, their own wants, their own desires second for t
used to live in soweto. mourners bring flowers and continue to sing and dance to celebrate his life. he died at the age of 95. we're live in johannesburgremind us of the significance of that particular location. >> well, this was essentially the nerve center. it was here that nelson mandela stayed for a number of months. it was the armed wing of the anc of the they would gather and meet to discuss strategies, what to do and where to go next. nelson mandela was dedicated to speak to a...
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a foreign affairs correspondent joins us now in johannesburg, south africa.are underway >> it's remarkable. the world is coming together to south africa and that is what a spokesman for the government said today. we have been watching as the dignitaries arrived in this is the former and final home with nelson mandela. as you can imagine, south africa security is gearing up. 11,000 troops and police have been deployed in over 70 heads of state are coming to this country. president obama, 26 congressmen, adding friends and those from around the world. prince charles all the way to raul castro. they will all be there in johannesburg, not far from the neighborhood where nelson mandela spent so much of his life. tens of thousands of dignitaries and the range of people that will be there at that event and elsewhere, telling us just how huge the reach of this man was. heather: thank you and we will be covering it. bill: a medical emergency on a cruise ship. the daring rescue caught on tape and how this all turned out. also, a woman accused of pushing her new husband
a foreign affairs correspondent joins us now in johannesburg, south africa.are underway >> it's remarkable. the world is coming together to south africa and that is what a spokesman for the government said today. we have been watching as the dignitaries arrived in this is the former and final home with nelson mandela. as you can imagine, south africa security is gearing up. 11,000 troops and police have been deployed in over 70 heads of state are coming to this country. president obama,...
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in from around the world and the nation of south africa now begins a state of mourning. our south african-based correspondent is with us from outside the mandela family home in johannesburgas we said in our first half hour, this is a nation many of whom went to bed last night who ll
in from around the world and the nation of south africa now begins a state of mourning. our south african-based correspondent is with us from outside the mandela family home in johannesburgas we said in our first half hour, this is a nation many of whom went to bed last night who ll
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africansace in south hearts reading, thank you for our dignity. us on the phone from johannesburg, france from bloomberg news. thank you for your time. you tried to get as close to the mandela home as possible. describe the scene now. we seem to have lost franz live from johannesburg. we will try to get back to him as soon as we can. president obama praising his achievements saying he served as an example for himself and many others. and nifty his fierce and unbending will do sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed south africa and moved all of us. his journey from a resin or to a the promisebodied that human beings and countries can change for the better. his commitment to transfer power and reconcile with those who jailed him set an example that all humanity should aspire to. >> bloomberg's kathleen hunter joins us from washington with more reaction. what are we hearing from the white house at this hour? >> from the speech we saw from president obama, the comments he made, one of the most striking was when the president talked about his own influence,
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thereby becoming an international icon of peace and reconciliation artie's policy or is in johannesburg and brings us more reaction from this historic memorial. they was one of the most important days in south africa's history as tens of thousands of south africans an international dignitaries from all corners of the globe turned out to pay their last respects to nelson mandela it was one in a series of memorials that are being held throughout the week that will culminate with his funeral on sunday in his hometown of qunu in the eastern cape but as always on these sad and often tragic occasions world leaders use the opportunity for their own personal politicking not least of all the american president barack obama who raised quite a few are brawls when he shook the hands of the cuban leader now this is despite the fact that an embargo is in place between the two countries obama was also smiling alongside the british prime minister david cameron and the danish leader they actually took a self shot of themselves and this despite the fact that there has been some kind of friction particularly between th
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in about the death of nelson mandela. i want to go to johannesburg and talk to robin kurnow, she has covered him extensively. she joins us robin, talk to us a little bit more about the reaction there in south africa as this news truly sinks in. >> well, it was 12 hours ago that nelson mandela passed away. and the president jacob zuma a few hours later told the nation, but it was around midnight south african time, so south africans across this country, particularly those in rural areas, with not easy access to twitter or facebook, probably didn't get the message that this great man had passed on and until this morning, those perhaps who are going to work, catching trains, getting on minibus taxis saw headlines like this as they went to work this morning. the world weeps, giving the details quite clinical of where he went and where, but i think this in a way sums up what many south africans are saying, hamba kahle, which means good-bye. nelson mandela freedom for life defined his life. hess born in the remote hills of south africa's eastern cape. he was given a main which means trouble maker. he was only given the name ne
in about the death of nelson mandela. i want to go to johannesburg and talk to robin kurnow, she has covered him extensively. she joins us robin, talk to us a little bit more about the reaction there in south africa as this news truly sinks in. >> well, it was 12 hours ago that nelson mandela passed away. and the president jacob zuma a few hours later told the nation, but it was around midnight south african time, so south africans across this country, particularly those in rural areas,...
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together in mourning he attended a memorial match with members of the monday love family in johannesburg sinusitis. the us. as usual it also formation. this day of mourning is only the beginning. the memorial celebrations are expected to last for a whole week. sch was fun and i cannot detect it seems to happen is that the dnc to notice about the day of prayer announcement. it looked forward to it and go for band will be going into today but it was dancing singing playing in front of it to the area. overall i would be keen to give ordinary people and treat the matter at all like holding on to that of the nation if it is kind of admiration for the man who gave his life for a common core and head for the freedom that was a key for third at one end of the fabric of the for profit. everywhere i've been hit with something make a rethink of the topic at this spot. evidently didn't come out of touch with the credit incrementally to the peak of the orient the commission concluded yesterday states and kept it clean. i'm keeping that could be treated at the kitchen and competent security. i'll complete or even credi
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us. thousands of people started to arrive in johannesburg for a memorial service for nelson mandela. more than 70 world leaders are scheduled to attend the event. these are live pictures from inside the stadium where the service will take place. earlier on we see some world leaders arriving, including some african leaders. the stadium has 95,000 states, there are 80,000 expected. the weather has been poor. it's windy, and they are dancing and joyfully singing to remember nelson mandela. now, the service itself is expected to include tributes by south african president jacob zuma. and u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon. i'm joined by haru mutasa in soweto. it's a sombre occasion, despite the fact that people are dancing and enjoying themselves. do you think people will use this as an opportunity to look at south africa today, and see how they live? >> yes, exactly. a lot of people are thinking about the future of south africa. even though it's raining and cold, people are filing in. people have come from all over the place. this group, for example, have arrived. >> where did you come
us. thousands of people started to arrive in johannesburg for a memorial service for nelson mandela. more than 70 world leaders are scheduled to attend the event. these are live pictures from inside the stadium where the service will take place. earlier on we see some world leaders arriving, including some african leaders. the stadium has 95,000 states, there are 80,000 expected. the weather has been poor. it's windy, and they are dancing and joyfully singing to remember nelson mandela. now,...
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in humanity. toson mandela showed us how love rather than hate. they were hearing from richard branson. has made tribute overnight. let's get some reaction from johannesburg. we can bring in a guest from there. we will bring in a professor of political science and currently the vice chancellor of the university of -- who joins us from johannesburg. thank you for joining us. thank you for giving us your time. the mood within the country right now. an important is moment. it is a time of mourning. for lifeelebration that has been magnificently lived. a life that was in service of the african continent and more importantly, in service of humanity. there appears that that they are singing. they are singing in appreciation for a life that was magnificently lived. >> he lived to a fine old age. would you say that reconciliation with in south africa is one of the ways that he is fondly remembered? >> i think that that is something that he is. i think the reconciliation initiatives absolutely gave south africa breathing room. buildeathing room democratic institutions. to build an independent judiciary. south africa has problems with inequality, corruption and oth
in humanity. toson mandela showed us how love rather than hate. they were hearing from richard branson. has made tribute overnight. let's get some reaction from johannesburg. we can bring in a guest from there. we will bring in a professor of political science and currently the vice chancellor of the university of -- who joins us from johannesburg. thank you for joining us. thank you for giving us your time. the mood within the country right now. an important is moment. it is a time of...
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in store for south africa. our next report takes us to the streets of johannesburg. >> he shows off the new house he is building. but he was also proud of the tiny home he used to live in, allocated to social housing policies when nelson mandela was president. most lax in south africa through gratitude for what the african national congress did in the past, and troubled about its future. >> next year is our year to vote. we do not know which party to vote for anymore, because our agency is corrupted. our president, always crisis there and there, misusing money. >> mistrust of the anc is spreading. for many, life has hardly improved since independence. about half of all working age people have no job. while mandela is revered, governments that came after him, including the current president, are blamed. it's mandela was a father, a hero. he was everything to us. the president does not give a dam about anything except himself. >> mandela was respected as a leader keeping the nation together. some fear that after his death, ethnic conflict could ignite. but others dismiss concerns, saying his values and ideals wil
in store for south africa. our next report takes us to the streets of johannesburg. >> he shows off the new house he is building. but he was also proud of the tiny home he used to live in, allocated to social housing policies when nelson mandela was president. most lax in south africa through gratitude for what the african national congress did in the past, and troubled about its future. >> next year is our year to vote. we do not know which party to vote for anymore, because our...
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in essence, truly was. they are at a loss for words to describe how they are feeling right now. the crowd behind us gathered in front of his house in johannesburgs been singing and chanting and just finishing singing the national anthem now. a little bit of moment of silence. tps he it was here in this house he passed away last night and his body moved to a military hospital and embalmed the next three or four days before going to a soccer stadium here in johannesburg for a public memorial. the casket will then lie in state before finally moving on to be buried in mandela's ancestorial hometown. we are expecting jake zuma to show up here in the next half hour. a lot of people have been talking to us about what nelson mandela has meant to them. one young man we meant, a 23-year-old black south african university student was emphasizing how digit his life was today to the life that his father and his parents went through back during the years of aparthe apartheid. a police officer also comparing the past and the present. everyone emphasizing had nelson mandela not made that decision that he made when he was relieved from prison to choose reconcil
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. >> pelley: deborah patta joins us now front of mandela's home in johannesburg. deborah, what are the plans going forward? >> reporter: an unprecedented period of mourning, scott, ten days in all. part of which includes nelson mandela's body lying in state for official public viewing. there will be a massive memorial service at a soccer stadium in soweto, and culminating in a private family funeral and burial and that's on the 15th of december. >> pelley: deborah patta in south africa. deborah, thank you very much. well, nelson mandela belonged to the world and today the world remembered. the flag atop the white house flew at half-staff. the new york stock exchange fell silent before the opening bell. and in india school children lit candles and said prayers. mark phillips has more on why mandela is so revered throughout the world. >> thank you! >> reporter: as much as the years could diminish nelson mandela's body and perhaps in the latter stages of his life his mind, they couldn't diminish the man. >> for us to continue talking peace and nonviolence. >> reporte
. >> pelley: deborah patta joins us now front of mandela's home in johannesburg. deborah, what are the plans going forward? >> reporter: an unprecedented period of mourning, scott, ten days in all. part of which includes nelson mandela's body lying in state for official public viewing. there will be a massive memorial service at a soccer stadium in soweto, and culminating in a private family funeral and burial and that's on the 15th of december. >> pelley: deborah patta in...
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us. joining me now someone who was outside the home in johannesburg, south africa. if you could tell us the scene outside the mandela home and the reaction of those who are outside the home tonight. good evening. >> reporter: good evening to you. close to 1:00 in the morning, actually. in the last hour or so, we've seen a string of relatives of nelson mandela, members of his family who have been streaming in, police escorts as well. and around us, this huge crowd building. dozens of well wishers singing songs from the apartheid. this multicultural, multicolored society. what's fascinating around here is how young this crowd is. i would estimate that at least 2/3 of the 100 or so people here are under the age of 25. they have no memory of apartheid. they have no memory of mandela being in prison. they have no memory of the years his face could not be published and he was hardly spoken about in the official media here. it's a fascinating reflection on his legacy. and of course people have been expecting this moment. he went into hospital six months ago. he's been incre
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us do. david mckenzie in johannesburg, thank you for that report.tle deeper right now with our chief national correspondent, john king. also our cnn political commentator, charles blow and republican strategist ana navarro. charles, what did you think of the president's speech today? clearly seemed to resonate with south africans. >> i think it was an amazing speech. i think this is the kind of moment where you see obama kind of rise. something happens between him and large crowds, stadium kind of crowds, where they feed off his energy, he feeds off that energy and he kind of lifts himself above both rhetorically and also in his demeanor above the kind of smallness that is actual governing. this is when you see him and i think it's kind of a non-political moment. this is a moment when you can be proud that we have a president who can do this sort of thing and represent the country well, whether or not you agree with him on policy or not. this sort of thing is where he really does shine and he makes america look good in moments like this. >> you know
us do. david mckenzie in johannesburg, thank you for that report.tle deeper right now with our chief national correspondent, john king. also our cnn political commentator, charles blow and republican strategist ana navarro. charles, what did you think of the president's speech today? clearly seemed to resonate with south africans. >> i think it was an amazing speech. i think this is the kind of moment where you see obama kind of rise. something happens between him and large crowds,...
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in johannesburg. they are singing and they are dancing in honor of the leader. joining usive with details on a special edition of 2020. you have some pretty incredible interviews lined up. >> this is going to be an extraordinary hour. great to be with you. we're mourning the loss of a great leader, but celebrating an incredible life. that is what we're going to do tonight. you talked about those interviews. one is with a young jailer, a white man who was assigned to protect south africa. you are going to protect this country from the most dangerous enter -- criminal in our land. he met mandela himself and this was a great leader who respected this prisoner. they became close friends. they will describe the signals he would give, a tug of the year. the jailer was bugged. he always knew when there were others listening in, because they became very close. >> i know you traveled with the first lady. that was back in 2011. what we say some of that as well? >> we will revisit our conversation with the first lady. it was with her two daughters. they were in the room with mr. mand
in johannesburg. they are singing and they are dancing in honor of the leader. joining usive with details on a special edition of 2020. you have some pretty incredible interviews lined up. >> this is going to be an extraordinary hour. great to be with you. we're mourning the loss of a great leader, but celebrating an incredible life. that is what we're going to do tonight. you talked about those interviews. one is with a young jailer, a white man who was assigned to protect south africa....
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by side as the nation mourns its most famous son and wonder what comes next port of johannesburg i am going to use in just over half an hour here our team attacks though tabby martin was breaking the sound. just imagine of foreign leaders like alexander lukashenko or vladimir putin to shoot up an anti e.u. protest and all garia greece are hungry to urge people to leave the e.u. and join up with the eurasian customs union obviously the media would be on fire screaming that this is part of an attempt to usurp democracy and steal the country's away some sort of imperialist agenda and you know what they might be right about that but the weird thing is that for some reason the mainstream media isn't talking about foreign politicians speaking to and or possibly agitating protesters in ukraine like speaker of the lithuanian parliament florida grows in india and e.u. vice president got sick proto c. of h. and former polish pm jaroslav kaczynski yeah the european union brassfield is just fine for their politicians to go to foreign countries and fire up protestors to start a pro e.u. revolution but then all th
by side as the nation mourns its most famous son and wonder what comes next port of johannesburg i am going to use in just over half an hour here our team attacks though tabby martin was breaking the sound. just imagine of foreign leaders like alexander lukashenko or vladimir putin to shoot up an anti e.u. protest and all garia greece are hungry to urge people to leave the e.u. and join up with the eurasian customs union obviously the media would be on fire screaming that this is part of an...
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in 1994. joining us now via telephone from johannesburg is bloomberg wilde. l reporter franz what is the move there? >> we can say very little because it is the middle of the night. midnight.t gone i have just driven through johannesburg and there is really nobody out and about. zuma was say is that very somber when he appeared on tv just a few moments ago. everyone is incredibly sad. this is a moment that south africans have been preparing for, for a long time. lmost the last 12 months there has been an almost daily expectation they may come. >> you have been reporting from south africa for four years. when you look at those four years, what role has mandela played in people's image of their country? >> mandela is still and will be for some wild, possibly forever, the looming figure in politics. there has been a lot of trepidation about what will appen when he does pass away simply because his role has been so important. i have just actually arrived at his house, and the area is blocked off by police with flashing lights. coming e a few citizens to the house
in 1994. joining us now via telephone from johannesburg is bloomberg wilde. l reporter franz what is the move there? >> we can say very little because it is the middle of the night. midnight.t gone i have just driven through johannesburg and there is really nobody out and about. zuma was say is that very somber when he appeared on tv just a few moments ago. everyone is incredibly sad. this is a moment that south africans have been preparing for, for a long time. lmost the last 12 months...
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. >>> and gail is in johannesburg where she'll tell us about attending nelson mandela's funeral overhanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> this is kpix 5 news. >> good morning, everyone, it is monday, des16th, i am michele. >> you might notice i am not mike, he is off. first we have the weather with him. >> yes, temperatures near record levels this afternoon, out the door now chilly in spots, 30ings in the value but you know what? 60s and breezy conditions, more on your forecast coming up. >> out the door we go, here is a live look, if you leave you should have no problems out there, overnight road work but no major accidents, a full look atr morning commute coming up. >> all right, sounds good, elizabeth, thank you. >>> overnight john kerry says they are still looking for evidence that the man who disappeared there is still alive but he says they should look elsewhere. tara mergener has the story. >> where is he? >> i have no idea. >> iran's foreign minister tells cbs news his country
. >>> and gail is in johannesburg where she'll tell us about attending nelson mandela's funeral overhanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> this is kpix 5 news. >> good morning, everyone, it is monday, des16th, i am michele. >> you might notice i am not mike, he is off. first we have the weather with him. >> yes, temperatures near record levels this afternoon, out the door now chilly in spots,...
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. >> michelle kosinski in johannesburg for us. thanks so much. i want to bring into the conversation now the reverend al sharpton host of "politicsnation" here on msnbc and charlayne hunter-gault who lived in south africa for many years as a journalist. it's lovely to have you assembled at the same place to talk about this. rev, i want to start with you. we look at the celebration and the remembrances that are taking place in johannesburjohannesbur. i landed on the birthday of nelson mandela when he turned 95. that was an international day. july 18th certainly throughout south africa where people are supposed to remember their charitable contributions to the world and take up causes. but what do you remember about how you knew nelson mandela as a young man and the man he transitioned into? >> you know, i started when i was a teenager. in fact, charlayne wrote the first piece. >> i raised him. >> i was 16. and when i started in what was after dr. king's time in the civil rights and started hearing about what's going on in south africa, some of the
. >> michelle kosinski in johannesburg for us. thanks so much. i want to bring into the conversation now the reverend al sharpton host of "politicsnation" here on msnbc and charlayne hunter-gault who lived in south africa for many years as a journalist. it's lovely to have you assembled at the same place to talk about this. rev, i want to start with you. we look at the celebration and the remembrances that are taking place in johannesburjohannesbur. i landed on the birthday of...
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this evening, we will fly to the africa to attend memorial service in johannesburg highness, theroyal prince of wales will represent us in the funeral. everyone's thoughts are with the family of nelson mandela, his friends, and the millions in south africa and around the who are mourning him today. mr. speaker, when looking back over history, it can be easy to victories over prejudice and hatred as somehow inevitable as years lengthen it can seem natural progress can have humanity ever upwards away brutality and darkness toward something better. it is not so. is not just handed down as a gift, it's one through struggle, the struggle of men who believe things can be better, who refused to accept the world as it is but dream of it can be. nelson mandela is the embodiment of that struggle. himself as a helpless victim of history. the evil ofr forget apartheid and its effect on benches,life, separate separate pews in church. whole language of segregation that expressed man's inhumanity to man. was n mandela's struggle made ever more vital by acts of brutality like apartheid. his was a journey that spanned decades from his
this evening, we will fly to the africa to attend memorial service in johannesburg highness, theroyal prince of wales will represent us in the funeral. everyone's thoughts are with the family of nelson mandela, his friends, and the millions in south africa and around the who are mourning him today. mr. speaker, when looking back over history, it can be easy to victories over prejudice and hatred as somehow inevitable as years lengthen it can seem natural progress can have humanity ever upwards...
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in johannesburg but grew up here. he was born and raised here, and doesn't come back here much, maybe once or twice a year. in driving us here we were actually enabling him to come home as well, to see his mother, to see his family when he might not otherwise have done so. today let's take a look at that homecoming. >> that's my mother. >> reporter: homecoming. another favorite son of the region back where we grew up on a vary visit from the big city. >> i'm very happy to be home, to see my mother, my family. >> his grandmother, who also grew up on this farm, gathers all of us for a song. [♪ singing ] >> and a prayer offered in thanks for our safe journey with their grandson at the wheel on the 800-mile trip from johannesburg. it is the other home coming with the much more famous member of the same tribe that is drawing the attention of the world this weekend to this remote rural area of south africa's eastern cape bringing road closures, detours, and a heavy police presence. [♪ singing ] >> local villagers are being kept out of the funeral itself but thousands turned out to line parts of the route from the airport to g
in johannesburg but grew up here. he was born and raised here, and doesn't come back here much, maybe once or twice a year. in driving us here we were actually enabling him to come home as well, to see his mother, to see his family when he might not otherwise have done so. today let's take a look at that homecoming. >> that's my mother. >> reporter: homecoming. another favorite son of the region back where we grew up on a vary visit from the big city. >> i'm very happy to be...
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nelson mandela foundation we have them in johannesburg where we have exhibitions on site and we can host people in the new year. we'd like to have viewers come visit us to come and share in the legacy. we also have a dialogue process that we have. we have just launched one with pictures of an international nature where it's people from 12 countries were talking about how we're dealing with our past. >> it would be important, i think, and i think that it's something that nelson mandela himself would stress and he has repeatedly stressed in the past, we are mourning one man, an individual, but he was the son -- sum of his many parts. he was the son of the struggle movement that involved so many people from whom now passed. we heard the names repeated, repeated. it's fitting perhaps at the end of the funeral service to remember that nelson mandela was not by himself. he was part of a massive organization of many, many people who gave their lives in many cases. >> i think the important thing and the significant point to make that nelson mandela himself was uncomfortable with this notion that he was really the only person that made the movement possible,
nelson mandela foundation we have them in johannesburg where we have exhibitions on site and we can host people in the new year. we'd like to have viewers come visit us to come and share in the legacy. we also have a dialogue process that we have. we have just launched one with pictures of an international nature where it's people from 12 countries were talking about how we're dealing with our past. >> it would be important, i think, and i think that it's something that nelson mandela...
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in washington. he'll be joining us with a preview of the hearings coming up at 6:00. >>> tens of thousands of people gathered in johannesburg to honor nelson mandela today. the stadium roared when president obama first started. he stirred up controversy by shaking hands with the cuban president raul castro. >> he was a man of flesh and blood, a son, and a husband, a father and a friend. i will always fall short of my example. he makes me want to be a better man. >> our coverage of the memorial continues during nightly news in about 20 minutes from now. >>> a nevada family missing since sunday night in frigid temperatures has been found safe. rescue crews spent the past two nights searching for the family. they went to see a mining area on sunday to play in the snow, but never came home. the region has been mired in a deep freeze with temperatures falling well below zero during the search. >> the community came together and helped us come to a successful conclusion. >> authorities say they did the right thing by staying in the car until they were all found. they were in pretty good shape. >>> coming up next, a bay area city
in washington. he'll be joining us with a preview of the hearings coming up at 6:00. >>> tens of thousands of people gathered in johannesburg to honor nelson mandela today. the stadium roared when president obama first started. he stirred up controversy by shaking hands with the cuban president raul castro. >> he was a man of flesh and blood, a son, and a husband, a father and a friend. i will always fall short of my example. he makes me want to be a better man. >> our...
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because joining us live from right outside of mandela's house in johannesburg, south africa, is nbc'suhit kutru who's outside of the mandela home in south africa. what can you tell us is going on outside? >> reporter: well, al, there is an incredible crowd here. a gathering of perhaps a hundred people of all ages of black and white. a true representation of south africa. one interesting observation is perhaps how young this crowd is. i would estimate two-thirds of people who are less than 25 years old. people who have no memory of the darkest days of apartheid. but such is mandela's legacy that he means exactly the same thing to the young teenagers who are gathering here with flames singing songs from the history boo books, songs from the struggle to older people that lived through pit it. in the last hour here, we've seen a string of police vehicles going into the house. and family members. >> -- kind of show us the crowd as you're describing this. is there a way for them to get a shot of this? >> reporter: yeah. al, we're doing that right now. and this is the scene. you know, you ca
because joining us live from right outside of mandela's house in johannesburg, south africa, is nbc'suhit kutru who's outside of the mandela home in south africa. what can you tell us is going on outside? >> reporter: well, al, there is an incredible crowd here. a gathering of perhaps a hundred people of all ages of black and white. a true representation of south africa. one interesting observation is perhaps how young this crowd is. i would estimate two-thirds of people who are less than...
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us. will the bitcoin bubble burst? we will take a look. ♪ >> good morning, everyone. "bloomberg surveillance." in johannesburgooking all morning at the images of the memorial service for nelson mandela. it continues in johannesburg in the rain in the afternoon, about 2:00 p.m. there. us, andfalkenrath with a remarkable photo out this morning. i want to give credit to reuters . the president shaking hands with -- raul zero raul castro. it really goes full circle of the drama of nelson mandela's 19 50s and 60s -- knowledge, the first time a u.s. president has connected to a cuban president since i think eisenhower. i may be wrong. to your point -- one of the reasons of the united states supported the apartheid government which had imprisoned nelson mandela was because i'm a soviet sponsored cuban -- because of a soviet sponsored cuban invasion of angola, and because of that invasion, you've been troops in angola, that we justified continued diplomatic and economic ties adam official level with apartheid south africa. cuba and the challenge we have moving forward, i believe the clock is ticking, as we saw with n
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mandela's body will be flown to his ancestral village in qunu for a private burial on the 15th of december. >> thank you. >>> joining us from johannesburgs john carlin the south africa correspondent of the london independent newspaper when mandala was freed from prison in 1990, he's the author two of books about mandala's life and times, including the one on which the film "invictus" was based. good morning to you, john. >> good morning. >> i had a chance to read your article yesterday in the uk it was beautiful. you talk a lot about the last time you saw nelson mandela four years ago. what was he like then? >> yeah. well it was almost exactly four years ago actually on the 8th of december, 2009. just before the movie "invictus" was about to come out. i went to his home here in johannesburg. he was sitting at the end of this very long dining room table on his own. eating his lunch. he a plate of minced meat. and the truth of the matter is is that he wasn't really very lucid. for most of the hour that i spent with him, he was enveloped in a sort of fog of old age. but there were two or three moments of fabulous clarity. that suddenly he
mandela's body will be flown to his ancestral village in qunu for a private burial on the 15th of december. >> thank you. >>> joining us from johannesburgs john carlin the south africa correspondent of the london independent newspaper when mandala was freed from prison in 1990, he's the author two of books about mandala's life and times, including the one on which the film "invictus" was based. good morning to you, john. >> good morning. >> i had a chance to...
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in johannesburg. >>> engineers at the international atomic energy agency are testing a remote control aerial device for use in fukushima. it's built to measure radiation levels in areas considered too dangerous for humans. the prototype was designed based on a drone to inspect post disaster sites around the world. an unmanned helicopter made by the japan atomic energy agency now monitors levels around the damaged fukushima plant. but the prototype is much smaller and easier to maneuver. it can fly close to buildings and even electric cables. the device is radio controlled and equipped with a camera. operators can preprogram it with data about the topography and buildings in the area. they hope to make the device available in two years. >>> the mayors of hiroshima and nagasaki want u.s. president barack obama to visit the cities and are asking ambassador caroline kennedy to help. the two mayors met kennedy at the u.s. embassy in tokyo. the mayors noted that former president john f. kennedy called on international leaders to sign a treaty banning nuclear testing. they say his daughter's position gives them h
in johannesburg. >>> engineers at the international atomic energy agency are testing a remote control aerial device for use in fukushima. it's built to measure radiation levels in areas considered too dangerous for humans. the prototype was designed based on a drone to inspect post disaster sites around the world. an unmanned helicopter made by the japan atomic energy agency now monitors levels around the damaged fukushima plant. but the prototype is much smaller and easier to...
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in common? something you may not expect and here for their first primetime interview. that's all for us tonight "ac 360" starts right now. >>> good evening, everyone. as one official here in johannesburg put it, the world is coming to south africa. coming to pay tribute to south africa, the father of modern south africa. the single largest gathering of heads of state in generations. among them president obama and three ex-presidents from the united states arriving this morning. former presidents clinton and carter flying separately along with presidents, prime ministers and princes and kings from nearly 100 countries. no less significantly ordinary people from all across south africa all converging on a soccer stadium here in johannesburg. it's built to hold 94,000 and may not be big enough and certainly too small to contain all the people to thank the man who led them to freedom. they led a country to freedom and showed the world a better way. i had the privilege of spending time with bono of the band u2. he knew nelson mandela over the years and been the voice for justice here since the late 1970s. when you first heard that he had died, what went through your mind? >> stubborn until
in common? something you may not expect and here for their first primetime interview. that's all for us tonight "ac 360" starts right now. >>> good evening, everyone. as one official here in johannesburg put it, the world is coming to south africa. coming to pay tribute to south africa, the father of modern south africa. the single largest gathering of heads of state in generations. among them president obama and three ex-presidents from the united states arriving this...
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in from around the world and the nation of south africa now begins a state of mourning. our south african-based correspondent is with us from outside the mandela family home in johannesburg. as we said in our first half hour, this is a nation many of whom went to bed last night who will be waking up tomorrow morning to hear this anticipated but still sad and shocking news. >> absolutely right, brian. anticipated. expected. predictable but painful nonetheless. as i look around, the crowds here have grown to maybe 400 or 500 people. mainly south africans who were born after the birth of democracy. the so-called born frees who have no memory of the darkest years of ar par tide. they are singing and celebrating his life rather than mourning his death because, of course, his death was not in any way surprising coming almost six months to the day since he was admitted to hospital with very serious respiratory illness. people here celebrating his life, life of the man perhaps the world respects and reveres. nelson mandela said, himself, i'm not a saint but a sinner who keeps on trying. nevertheless, there is perhaps no one in this world who in the modern age has been more rever
in from around the world and the nation of south africa now begins a state of mourning. our south african-based correspondent is with us from outside the mandela family home in johannesburg. as we said in our first half hour, this is a nation many of whom went to bed last night who will be waking up tomorrow morning to hear this anticipated but still sad and shocking news. >> absolutely right, brian. anticipated. expected. predictable but painful nonetheless. as i look around, the crowds...
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if you're just joining us, a massive memorial service for nelson mandela is underway right now in johannesburgafrica. >> here's a live look at the soccer stadium where nearly 100,000 mourners are gathering. >> we'll have live coverage throughout the hour and continuing throughout the service. the service is streamsing online as well if you're interested in watching it that way. fox news.com. but first, other stories making headlines today. >>> and we begin with a fox weather alert. more snow expected to hit the northeast today on top of slush and ice left from sunday's storm. >> maria is in the weather center tracking the second burst of snow. maria, what's the time line for this storm. >> good morning. well, we're actually already seeing that snow coming down early this morning across portions of the state of west virginia and ohio and western part of the state of virginia. now we do expect significant acumulation in some of the areas but widespread amounts of two to six inches are forecast across areas where we have winter weather advise risk. that's across west virginia up into tennessee up
if you're just joining us, a massive memorial service for nelson mandela is underway right now in johannesburgafrica. >> here's a live look at the soccer stadium where nearly 100,000 mourners are gathering. >> we'll have live coverage throughout the hour and continuing throughout the service. the service is streamsing online as well if you're interested in watching it that way. fox news.com. but first, other stories making headlines today. >>> and we begin with a fox...
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in outstanding student debt. are we using outdated models to measure success. >> that's "the stream" right after "real money." >> the elite and ordinary gathered together in johannesburg to pay tribute to nelson mandela. >>> in an economy dominated by large companies, only 35% of south africans believe there are opportunities business opportunities in the country. it may be related to the fact that small businesses in south africa have one of the highest failure rates,, a whoopining 70. ali velshi is in johannesburg. >> we're going to talk about food that black south africans ate in the old days before mandela and still eat today. the main stay of the south african diet is you cornmeal. and you have been selling this all day. how is business? >> business is good today. very, very good. >> you have not been doing this this. this is new business for. >> you it's not a new business. eight months i've been doing this line. >> before this you were a waitress. >> i decided to tart my own business. >> how is it for people who want to start their own business in in aparin apartheid south afric. is it easy or hard. >> it's a gamble. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. >> do
in outstanding student debt. are we using outdated models to measure success. >> that's "the stream" right after "real money." >> the elite and ordinary gathered together in johannesburg to pay tribute to nelson mandela. >>> in an economy dominated by large companies, only 35% of south africans believe there are opportunities business opportunities in the country. it may be related to the fact that small businesses in south africa have one of the highest...
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robyn kurnow is in johannesburg for us. she's covered this story for a long time. robyn, i understand that authorities in south africa, they worked out a very, very deliberate series of commemorative events over the next several days as world leaders will come to south africa. >> reporter: understandably, the focus for most people in the world is going to be here over the next ten days. we expect his funeral to take place on day ten so that is either saturday or sunday a week. we know that in the next three or four days, his body will be taken to a military hospital in pretoria will he will be embalmed. on day five of this series of commemorative events, there will be a memorial service for him in a soccer stadium where the world cup football final was played, and that will be essentially a public good-bye. that will take place here in johannesburg. it's unclear if his body will be there or if it won't be. some heads of state are being encouraged to attend that commemorative memorial. and then after that, from sort of day six, seven and eight, you are going to see
robyn kurnow is in johannesburg for us. she's covered this story for a long time. robyn, i understand that authorities in south africa, they worked out a very, very deliberate series of commemorative events over the next several days as world leaders will come to south africa. >> reporter: understandably, the focus for most people in the world is going to be here over the next ten days. we expect his funeral to take place on day ten so that is either saturday or sunday a week. we know...
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in soweto. carl joins us from johannesburg, and a steady stream of visitors -- we've seen this, as we're calling flowers and flags and pictures. robin, the man tell la family spokesman, the grandson, they're expected to make a statement soon. what do we know about this, and why they're making a statement? >> reporter: well, they've actually just made the statement as i was coming on air. and essentially, the family wanted to thank everybody -- these people, ordinary south africans -- who've walked through these suburban streets and come and laid flowers from their gardens, or written a personal message, and laid it on that wall over there, which is really just an ordinary police barricade that is now absolutely full of flowers. they are singing, they are dancing, they're celebrating nelson mandela's life. and i think what is very important to the family saying that nelson mandela, as everybody knows, treated everybody the same. and he made time for everybody. the family saying, kings and queens, poor and rich, great and small, nelson mandela took time to look them in the eye, shake their hand, a
in soweto. carl joins us from johannesburg, and a steady stream of visitors -- we've seen this, as we're calling flowers and flags and pictures. robin, the man tell la family spokesman, the grandson, they're expected to make a statement soon. what do we know about this, and why they're making a statement? >> reporter: well, they've actually just made the statement as i was coming on air. and essentially, the family wanted to thank everybody -- these people, ordinary south africans --...