back with us is cliven bundy. back with us is cliven bundy. and back with us tonight to respond in a hannity exclusive is rancher cliven bundy. cliveen, i've gotten to know you as the controversy is unfolding. you and your family seem like really nice people. >> stephen: man, hannity ate up that store so hard, bundy should have charged him grazing fees. ( cheers and applause ). and thanks, thanks to sean's sympathetic coverage, arped patriots flocked to bundy's ranch to defend his rights. >> we were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. if they're going to start shooting, it will be women that will be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers. >> reporterofficers. >> stephen: now, that's not as monstrous as it sounds. i'm sure they were going to protect the women with a line of children. ( applause ) now, no surprise, the feds did not have the sack to shoot through a lady line, so they packed it in. and in that moment of victory against an enroaching federal g

cliven bundy and supporters. back to respond tonight is cliven bundy and his sons aman and arden are with us. what is your reaction to being called or compared to the tim mcveigh or the boston bombers, what is your reaction to that? >> sean, i would like to ask your audience, you seen these videos in the last couple of weeks. i want to ask you, who looked like the terrorists? who is the domestic terrorists here? did you see we the people with guns or the united states government with guns? harry, why are you acting like this? why, harry, are you calling for a civil war? that's not what we the people want. we just wanted you to disarm your army and get out of our state and start acting like citizens of the united states. that's all we want, harry. >> cliven, by the way, we're putting up pictures. apparently you put on your facebook page or your daughter did, now a lot of these dead cattle of yours and apparently, there were graves dug by blm people. is that true? >> there were graves dug and we have dug into at least one of them and we have found dead cattle in there, yes. >> all right. let me

bundy ranch. so given that warning, could there be another standoff brewing tonight? back with us is the rancher himself, cliven bundy. we're also joined by his daughter and son. welcome back to the program. there have been a lot of reports about this. what do you make of the sheriff's comments, cliven? >> i had no -- i really know nothing about that, you know? i can say one thing, we had a beautiful moon last night. and i thought, you know, that thing might be fixed up there by the federal government, i'm not sure. but it was different, that's for sure. >> all right. >> what do you think about this conspiracy theory that somebody made up over world net daily? i don't know, but i liked that other conspiracy theory from world net daily, the one about the moon. okay! this is what's happening on fox news channel right now in prime-time, in case you haven't been watching. this actual story in nevada is dead. it's over. at least the threat of armed anti-government zealots having a shooting war with the federal government seems to have cooled down a little bit. but the fox news channel, in all its glory, is doing eve

cliven bundy's ranch in nevada. bundy family members say they have disturbing new evidence that the government, federal government, that is, killed their cattle. joining us cliven's wife carol bundy and his daughter. welcome to both of you. carol, first to you. tell me what happened with your cattle and the federal government? you say they killed them? >> yes. we went to the compound where they were holding the cattle that they gathered. we saw a shallow grave that had been dug and covered up. and there were, as we uncovered that, there were some of our cattle that they had shot and had been thrown in the grave. >> carol, did they give some explanation? have you spoken to them why they would have shot the cattle? >> well, we don't communicate with the blm as to why they do whatever they do. we just can see the evidence that i have some of my cattle that are no longer with us. >> betsy, what do you make of this as you watch what's going on with your parents and this cattle ranch? >> it's disturbing. it's disturbing to watch. i was there as we dug them up. it was disturbing to see cattle that we have raised dead for no reason. >> now, carol, i take it your

us tonight. the cliven bundy controversy this that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo.the story broke about the feds going to nevada, to make a rancher pay gration fees, my staff did what it always does. we researched and found out the facts and those are these. cliven bundy broke the law for many years by not paying the fees that the federal government owns the land and that the state of nevada readily admits that jurisdiction in the grazing controversy. those are the facts. so, we presented them to you. and then mildly criticized the feds for overreacting. you may remember, judge napolitano and i spacekly said it's a waste of taxpayer money to conduct a raid and seize cattle. you simply use the legal system to eventually make bundy pay up. now, most of you agreed with our analysis. a few threw in with mr. bundy but not very many. some commentators sliewgd some on fox news rallied to mr. bundy's side. but most fox news people did not. and that's why we're successful. we have a wide variety of in a vibrant way. now, we know that cliven bundy is a man who does not see th

they don't want, that there is no immediate need for any use for, there has got to be a more common sensecal solution onto this. >> according to the court orders cliven bundyas lost. the execution of the court order, when they bring in helicopters and all of this, that's the problem. many problems. but that's one of them. >> well, and bundy feels like and i spent an hour with him on the radio today. he feels this is a

. >> and back with us tonight to respond in a "hannity" exclusive is rancher cliven bundy and his son aman and his daughter. welcome back to the program. first harry reid says this, cliven and then his son and then the sheriff that i told you about last night, him saying that the feds say this is not over, and that, in fact, they might be plans to come back once things have calmed down completely. are you hearing any of those things? and what's your reaction to it? >> well, you know, i can tell harry and harry's son that almost every law, almost every day, don't matter i walk out of my door, do something with my farm or water my cattle or drive up on my ranch, some federal law i'm breaking. i break laws almost every time i turn around, every step i take. so harry, you're right. your son, you're right. i do break federal laws evidently if they are really laws. but i do try to follow the state of nevada laws. the county laws and sheriff, i love them. >> cliven, i've gotten to know you over the controversy. you and your family seem like really nice people. i am concerned that the federal

is? jail. at least he gave us tremendous years of acting. and because he failed to pay his taxes and what you give us is a poor sub "b" acting job here. cliven bundyhamed of himself. the people who support him ought to be ashamed of themselves. what they don't want to come to grips with is the fact that the great english professor said today on the huffington post that many white people don't want to grapple with the fact that affirmative action has been white usually. they have been the beneficiaries of that affirmative action. . when somebody asks them to be equal or fair about the distribution mechanism and to be open and honest, then they go haywire and get very reventful. that's what cliven bundy is a symptom of. >> holland, rusch lim baa's conservative stations across the country are taking a hit in the ratings like they have never seen before, and they're getting shoved off to smaller signals. down and i have talked about this in the past. it's not connected to any one region. it is by this graphic, you can see, all over the country. hean then you get somebody like cliven bundy who quotes a radical like glenn beck. says i'm just wondering,

cliven bundy. from the great state of kentucky is senator ran paul. thank you for joining us. hats up for the first 2016 potential candidate to weigh in on the bundy ranch. when you hear senator harry reid, say, call the bundy family domestic terrorists, whatever side you're on whatsoever is there any reason to call americans domestic terrorists? >> no, i think what we should all be calling for is for calmer heads to prevail. i don't want to see violence on either side. there is a legitimate constitutional question here about whether the state should be in charge of endangered species or whether the federal government should be, but i don't think calling people names is going to calm this down. i think it's liable to stir it up. so i think all parties including senator reid should calm the rhetoric and have a peaceful solution. the endangered species act is abused across america. they have a lake in kentucky they won't put any more water in because they are worried about a fish. i keep asking, don't fish like water? there is a bat in the state where you have to pay the federal

cliven bundy is on the phone. this is just breaking this afternoon. tell ushear senator harry reid call you a domestic terrorists, what do you have to

cliven bundy. >> dana bash is joining us.today. >> i said i'm wondering if they are better off under government subsidy and young women are having abortions and their young men are in jail and their older women and children are sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do. you know, i'm wondering, are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves and they was able to have a family structure together? >> well, that clears it up. so i guess the big question, dana and brian, i'll start with you dana. how significant is this story to the 2014 midterms to politics? >> he wilwell, the fact that th people who were jumping on the bandwagon as a perfect example of a way to get at the government are distancing themselves fast. it speaks to a question about the split of the party. let's just face it, i've spoke with some conservatives, maybe mother establishment republicans saying, you know what, this is what happens when you jump to be this kind of -- you jump to this kind of atmosp

cliven bundy and see him as a freeloaders but to his supporters he's a hero. >> where do you stand? >> talk about somebody who doesn't follow anybody's rules, heather nauert is with us. >> good morning. thr-ts something urgent going on overseas. there is a rescue mission underway. it is a race to find survivors and the pictures here are horrifying. there is a ferry off the coast of south korea, and it is sinking, leaving at least two people dead so far but there is serious fear that that number could rise dramatically because nearly 300 people are missing at this hour, and that water is very, very cold. in part what is so devastating about this is that many of the missing are high school students who were on their way to a resort. at this hour passengers are being rescued by helicopters and also by fishing boats that happened to be in the area. passengers we are hearing from said they heard some sort of a big thump before that boat went down. the cause of the accident is not yet clear but that rescue mission taking place right now. we'll keep following this story for you. >> he said, quote, i really need exposure. a self-proclaimed performance artist is under arrest

ought to be able to predict that they don't yet is that these people, people like cliven bundy don't understand when they're no longer being politically useful to the conservative movement. they will not stop talking on cnn just because they are no longer answering the political interests -- advancing the political interests of republicans. >> also look, these republicans -- you can see the allure of it. people get worked occupy twitter and on talk radio and see it. and you know, everybody who has a problem with the government looks at this guy like he's my hero. politicians say, well, i got to get on this bandwagon. i don't want to be too -- >> do you know what we call that in the cable news game -- fool's gold. you're here like, that story's popping. like, do not go down there. don't go -- don't do it. it's fool's gold. and they couldn't stop themselves. and one of the great things is the genre today of conservative handwringing y. why do we let this happen. i thought of a less insidious version. but the great joe the plumber walk of shame that happened before. joe the plumber, some dude no one had heard of, turned into total fox news hero

is anything but. cliven bundy is no patriot over his refusal to pay money for his use of our land.enabling the state to secede from our union. the contempt that some on the right feel for their fellow citizens, mitt romney's famous 47%, the takers, the welfare queens, the young bucks buying t-bone steaks. paul ryan's generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and culture of work. that contempt for your fellow country men and women is anything but patriotic. we on the left should not allow conservatives to get away with claiming it as their exclusive domain. we should not accept their loaded rendering of the term. real patriotism should be grounded in the recognition of the highest heights of power to the homeless veterans sleeping on the street. bonded together in a country that stands at its tallest of land of opportunity. grounded in striving to make more perfect that ideal of a fair shot for all so your station at birth does not determine your station at death. and real patriotism means making the country ever more democratic so the franchise is exp

cliven bundy, enraged a lot of supporters. but not this man, he is bundy's bodyguard, says that man is no racist. jason, thank you for joining usnks for having me. i'm doing all right. >> okay, let's start at the beginning, where are you from? i know you're a veteran. was it army? >> yes, sir. >> you were in the army? and you came to this area outside of las vegas when you heard about this story. why? >> well, i live in las vegas, and i heard everything that was going on. you know, this is a fight against an oppressive government. and i had the chance to come help out and take a stand and i did. >> you -- when you served -- are these beliefs that you had when you were serve not guilty the army? why is it that you believe we have an oppressive government? >> i took an oath to defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic. and there are domestic enemies in the current administration. >> in the obama administration? >> correct. >> okay. now, when you got down there and you started meeting mr. bundy and his kids, grand kids, all of those folks there, had you heard of his theories on race and

they're dentally upset about this government that pulse their gut on us. >> i'm glad cliven bundy agrees with senator harry reid that he iserrorist. luckily for bundy fox news is very talented at trash-talking harry reid. >> the most powerful democrat in congress has now officially stepped way over the line when it comes to his rhetoric about rancher cliven bundy. >> that looked like afghanistan. and if that was anything that was domestic terrorism, it was perpetuated by the government, not the people. >> as saying deescalating things, snar senator reid seeme upping the rhetoric. >> you know how passionate i am about terrorism. i witnessed 9/11. >> people are suggesting that the harry reid had some stake in this whole matter and that he was against the rancher, cliven bundy for political purposes, he wanted the land for development and there are other people who pad his political pockets. >> it is disrespectful to americans for that man to call these people terrorists. he is the terrorist, and as far as i'm concerned in this situation. >> mr. reid is the one who is calling more attention to this. it was over, people were

is very interested in it. thank you for being with us. appreciate you being with us. >>> coming up tonight who exactly is the man leading the controversial bureau of land management that is battling cliven bundy? we'll look at him and his background. we have an investigative report coming up. judge napolitano will debate. and tax day is here. we'll find out if people think the so-called rich are paying their fair share and then we'll actually break out who is actually paying what. round thism and i see nothing but untapped potential. you have potential. you have...oh boy. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. to truck guys, the truck is everything. and when you put them in charge of making an unbeatable truck... ... good things happen. this is the ram 1500. the 2014 motor trend truck of the year and first ever back-to-back champion. guts. glory. ram. >>> welcome back. senator harry reid says the battle against cliven bundy is not over. questions are being raised about his connection to this entire controversy, especially when it comes to this man. neil kornze is a information reid aide that's been leading the bureau of land management as its principal

>> any doubt sean hannity is a huge cliven bundy supporter? hannity has used his show as a platform to let this law breaker talk down the federal government numerous times. >> get your arm out of nevada, get your army out of my ranch, keep it out. and if they come, we'll deal with them tonight. >> every county sheriff across the united states, disarm the federal bureaucrats, take the federal united states bureaucrats' guns away. i do break federal laws evidently if they're really laws. these feds, i don't recognize their jurisdiction or authority, so, no, i wouldn't go with them. >> none of the comments were challenged on fox news. especially not by hannity. cliven bundy has now appeared on hannity's show seven times. his air time on fox news has now topped 53 minutes. sean hannity admitted he's got tonight know bundy very well. >> cliven i've got tonight know you as this controversy's unfold, you and your family seem like really nice people. >> really nice people. sean's gotten to know him really well. turns out that sean hannity isn't the best judge of chara

is bundy's breaking the law. another difference is bundy is using guns instead of peacefully protesting. people on food stamps or unemployed folks across america, you know what they're called, they're called takers and free loaders. cliven bundy, holy smokes, this guy's a hero, because he's been stealing from the federal government for 20 years and he's now backed up by fox news who's blaming the government for collecting what's rightfully theirs. republicans, you know what they do, along with fox news, they pick and choose who they want to fight for and they make the case. ask yourself the question, is that consistent? i really want to see sean hannity out on the front lines with an ak-47 defying a court order and standing with those folks. listening to some of those sound bites, folks, go back and watch this on dvr. you know what these guys are? there's posse commatitus. there's been shooting matches in this country before. in north dakota where two u.s. marshals were shot and killed. this is dangerous stuff. it can spiral out of control, and it is absolutely irresponsible for any national broadcaster to be saying, hey, i'm going to stand with you folks. to hell with the federal government. to hell with paying the fee

us all is he smes ter. special report up next.achild. or child help.org. they have been helping children for over 50 years. think about it. >>> this is a fox news alert. tensions flaring between cliven bundy and the federal government over the rancher's cattle grazing. cliven and his son will join us. bundy supporters confronted the heavily armed federal officials with guns and tasers. now according to the bundy family members, an elderly woman was thrown to the ground, another protesters, the son of mr. bundy was tazed three times and joining me with the latest, fox' own william. >> sean, he's getting militia showing up from around the country to confront ag

paul tweeted thursday cliven bundy's remarks on racism are offensively and i wholeheartedly disagree with him. tweet us @ajconsiderthis. >>> is twitter's impact online overrated? who are the most influential people in the world in this year? >>> as the fight for equal pay for women continues, a new book asks if a lack of confidence is holding women back. research shows women are less willing to take risks, consistently underestimate abilities and don't consider themselves as qualified for promotions as the male counterparts. why are women less confident and what can be done to bridge that gap? claire shipman joins us. she's the co-author of a new book, "the confidence code." the atlantic magazine may issue features an excerpt from that book. great to see you, and congratulations on the book. women today are earning more college and graduate degrees than men. 23 of the fortune 500 companies have female ceos, and "time" magazine just released their list of the 100 most influential people. 41 are women. shouldn't women be more confident today than ever? >> antonio, great to see you again. yes, this struck me and my co-author kat

is very interested in it. thank you for being with us. appreciate you being with us. >>> coming up tonight who exactly is the man leading the controversial bureau of land management that is battling cliven bundy. we'll look at him and his back ground. we have an investigative report coming up. judge napolitano will debate. and tax day is here. we'll find out if people think the so-called rich are paying their fair share and then we'll actually break couldn't the hannity big board tonight who is paying what. you'll see that tonight on hannity. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. . >>> welcome back. snar senator harry reid says the battle against cliven bundy is not over. neil kornze is a information reid aide that's been leading the bureau of lapsed management as its principal deputy director since march of 2013. last week, surprise, surprise he was sworn in as director. joining me with much more and reid's close ties to most powerful guy at blm, valerie richardson. thanks fork with us.

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is pulling out guns on us. >>ç you know what is interesting, to some cliven bundy is a free loader who owes millions of dollarsk fees. to others he is a hero standing up to the federal government. for harry reid to say people who support this guy who he feels is doing the right thing is extraordinary. one other thing, he said cliven bundy has not paid his taxes which is exactly the same thing he said about mitt romney who did pay his taxes. some radio station called cliven bundy and said have you paid yourç taxes? he said i have paid my taxes. i haven't paid my grazing fees. >> the president spoke on foreign policy yesterday and the u.c. and tensions there -- in the ukraine as tensions there rise and russian forces continue to move into that area. the president has made repeated, i don't know, threats against vladimir putin basically saying we're not going to put military presence in that region, but we will have something that we might do which might be monetarily related and i'm not really sure. but we want you to know there is no military action on the table. >> are you saying rather than any military acti

us all is he smes ter. special report up next.achild. or child help.org. they have been helping children for over 50 years. think about it. >>> this is a fox news alert. tensions flaring between cliven bundy and the federal government over the rancher's cattle grazing. cliven and his son will join us. bundy supporters confronted the heavily armed federal officials with guns and tasers. now according to the bundy family members, an elderly woman was thrown to the ground, another protesters, the son of mr. bundy was tazed three times and joining me with the latest, fox' own william. >> sean, he's getting militia showing up from around the country to confront agents with the federal burro of land management that claims that bundy in 1994 lost his right to graze cattle when the feds declared it a habemus paps be a the endangered tortoise and bundy defied court orders to remove head of cattle and failing to pay up to a million dollars in grazing fees. bundy's son sees it differently. >> yesterday we seen them throw an elderly woman to the ground, and taze another protester three times. the tortoise thing is a scapegoat from day one. the tortoise is not endanger. how will this end? >> reporter:

>>> by now, everyone who has used the internet or seen a television set is familiar with the story of cliven bundyvada cattle rancher who stopped paying grazing fees on federal land in 1993 rand now owes the government more than $1 million. bundy's cause, he refuses to acknowledge the existence of the federal government. has attracted militia members and anti-government fringes and it is won him the adoration of the conservative media for the zealot who is have been ready to take up arms against the people who collect land fees, even the slightest provocation has been cause for concern. but that did not stop senate majority leader, harry reid, from calling it like he sees it. >> these people who hold themselves out to be patriots are not. they're nothing more than domestic terrorists. >> naturally bundy's media defenders were shocked and outraged. >> this is a fox news alert. the most powerful democrat in congress has officially stepped way over the line. >> so harry reid has stepped way over the line. not the man who has cheated the system for 20 years and has surrounded his ranch with an army of

scalia used that tea party style rhetoric at a time when nevada rancher cliven bundy is revolting againstf a well armed malish wra and while claiming he doesn't even recognize the authority of the federal government. scalia is not even the most political justice on the court. his colleague and judicial wonder twin clarence thomas is is it married to a tea party leader, swrimy thomas, who type ofly organized against the affordable care act attempt her husband was helping to decide the constitutionality of the law. justice stevens himself wrote the majority opinion in that 1997 case that allowed paula jones to oppose president clinton. he joined justice ginsburg and two other justices in december in perhaps the most famously political supreme court justice -- the supreme court decision in a generation. bush v gore. the same year that sandia day o'connor reportedly told friends she wanted to be sure she retired under a republican. yes, when the justices retire, it matters because the court is totally political. and that wraps things up for the reid report. i'll send you back here tomorrow at

us. sea you tomorrow night right here at 7 p.m. eastern. right now go to gretawire.com and answer this question. rory reid wants carol and cliven bundy prosecuted. ismething in it for him. up next the o'reilly factor. good night from washington. >>> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> he is not a victim and he is not a hero. the facts aren't in dispute. he has been using land that he doesn't own for over 20 years, and he didn't pay. he broke the law. >> why is the left so determined to make rancher cliven bundy pay a steep price in the nevada cattle controversy? we have a special report. >> sorry. >> [ laughter ] >> a a brand new scientific study says smoking pot will definitely hurt you. we will present the facts tonight. >> i feel sadness for the

cliven bundy is on the phone. this is just breaking this afternoon. tell us when you hear senator harry reid call you a domestic terrorist, what do you have to say to the senator? >> i guess he's right. we're definitely citizens riled up. the most loving people and we're meeting here together and they are definitely upset about this government that pulls their gun on us and, you know, they are -- i don't know. i just can't see how he gets that type of description out of these people. >> so cliven, when they actually backed off a couple days ago, it seemed like things calmed down. do you think senator harry reid is inciting more people to come back and support you? >> i don't know. sure he would be. anytime he calls us a riot, domestic riot, i'm thinking there is just going to be more people coming. they are not going to stand for that, either. >> are people still showing up? are new people showing up? >> we, we just had a press conference here and we started out with 32 people. before everybody got through, i talked to a lot of people and, you know, there are

us the time to do the things we love. med-care. we deliver a better life. >>> cliven bundy is a rancher from nevada. lives. he's fighting back and people applaud him, especially on the right. then he said he wonders if negros were better off as slaves. his supporters are running for cover. does he stand by what he said? why is he refusing to do what every other rancher in his state does which is pay for the use of the land he uses. cliven bundy joins us live. i see in your arms that you are holding a dead calf. what happened? >> well, this dead calf died this morning. he's been without his mother two weeks, and we found him -- actually fish and wildlife people down in overton, nevada, found this calf and called us. we picked this calf up last night and tried to save his life. he's been too long without a mother. he's been badly abused -- you can see his tongue here. let me lay the calf down -- >> that's probably a good idea given it's a little early. a lot of families are watching. we don't want to upset them too much. >> well, you know they ought to be upset. what's wrong with america? they can't s

us into your home tonight. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. greta is "on the record" right now. >> nevada rancher and cliven bundyor senator harry reid. first, sit down. you need to hear this. chances are, you are spending more money on taxes than housing, clothing, and food combined. take a look at this new chart released by tax foundation. they have crunched the numbers and pretty stunning. joining is former new hampshire governor john shah knew knew, nice is a sununu, good to see you. >> nice to be here. >> spending more on taxes. >> been bad five years for taxes. 140 new taxes proposed by the president. >> shot down by the house republicans. >> not all of them. but enough of them got through including obamacare

democrats who have used that, there have been some -- there certainly have been some, but it is no means a reflection of the entire democratic party. >> when harry reid called cliven bundy and anybody that supported him, domestic terrorists, that is what we're talking about in this block. they take it one step too far you don't end up talking about the fact that the federal government and relationship with the states in the west is out of whack and needs reform. you end up talking about how american patriots, whether they are or not, domestic terrorists. >> my point here is you can't take and selectively clips out there and say that that it represents the entire democratic party but it does not. >> did you read the article, though, that talked about reporters in washington who are connecting the dots, oh, i see, this is the pattern. you say it here, she says it there and he says it there. it becomes the new narrative. >> to be honest, they have been reaching into the bag and pulling out the same driver every time. we're talking about strategies that they have been been using and the rhetoric that they have been using pretty consistently as of late. that's why there are

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. >> huge gift to us because it falls into this stereotype that a lot of people already have about republicans. >> cliven bundy, turns out, is a racist. he is, of course, the same cliven bundy who many conservatives and one cable network in particular has spend the last months as a patriot. >> grazing on public land and eating public grass. >> hat tip 2016 potential candidate to weigh in on the bundy ranch. >> your family raising their cattle, grazing there for all of these years. >> we should have a federal government protecting the liberty of citizens, not using the jack boot of authoritarianism to come against the citizen. >> what senator reid calls domestic terrorists i call patriots. >> i'd like to see the land owned by individuals, privately or the very most the state government but not the federal government. >> i was scheduled to be out there tonight if this didn't end this weekend. if he -- if they come back, i'll be out there with you. >> bundy revealed racism in a speech to supporters over the weekend. first reported in today's new york times that bundy began his rant by saying to those gathered, i want to tell yo

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backing away from racist remarks made by cliven bundy, the nevada rancher who is refusing to pay the government more than $1 million in combrazing fees for usingederal lands. bundy's cause has drawn supporters from rand paul and dean heller who called him, quote, a point ratriot, but in s new york times he was discussing african-americans he once saw in a las vegas housing project saying, quote, they were basically on government subsidy so now what do they do? they abort their young children. they put their young men in jail because they've never learned how to pick cotton and i've often wondered are they better off as slaves picking cotton and having a family life and doing things or are they better off under government subsidy? they did not get no more freedom. they got less freedom. bundy's remarks came during one of his daily news conferences since the beginning of his tense standoff. rand paul told nbc quote, bundy's remarks on race are offensive and i wholeheartedly disagree with him and a spokes american for senator dean heller told the times that, quote, he completely disagrees with mr. bundy's appalling and racist statements and conde

with us now, our msnbc political analyst david corn with mother jones and howard fineman of "the washington post." how like gandhi and george washington is cliven bundy? explain. >> well, gandhi had great respect for cattle, as well. >> indeed. >> except he didn't want to kill them and eat them, so there's that. i, having spent a bunch of time in those parts of the united states, i always find it amusing that people like cliven bundy and his supporters rail against the federal government. but it's the federal government who provides enormous benefits in terms of payments for minerals, in terms of water reclamation, in terms of rural electrify case, in terms of all the things the federal government has the power to provide, but none of that means anything to somebody like bundy, who is under the illusion that he's truly an independent actor who doesn't need any help from anyone else in the world. that's just not the way it works. when he's shipping his cattle on interstate highways or on rails, he's doing it with the help of the entire united states, but that doesn't fit into the conservative narrative in places like the national review. >> yeah, also