>> larry: joining us is lawrence degrute, after two campaigns aboard the flag ship steve irwin he joined the crew, the ship described by some as a batmobile on water. it was destroyed in a collision with a japanese whaling ship in january. here is a look at some of the drama on "whale wars." >> it will be our harpoon interceptor vessel, twice as fast as the harpoon vessels. it is a wave piercer. it goes right through the water. it has a kevlar fiber hull. so the vessel is pretty much bulletproof. >> its mission, to cut the whalers harpoon lines. >> wow. wow. >> he hit it? >> i can't see. >> they hit him. >> get some binoculars. >> do you see people? >> i don't see any people. >> larry: thank you for joining us. you were on the ship when it went down, what happened? >> well we were drifting at the point that, when we got around, we actually had been going after the boat to slow it down, the bob barker could catch it up. and block the slipways so they couldn't kill any more whales. we were running very low on fuel. we were actually about to head back to refuel. and we were drifting, lettin

>> larry: joining us from morocco is lawrence degrute, after two campaigns aboard the flag ship stevewin he joined the crew of the ship the arimoro described by some as a bat mobile on water. >> our harpoon interceptor vessel. it goes right through the water. it has a kevlar shell. >> the adi gil is to be the nimble rocket ship the "steve irwin" is not. the mission is to cut the harpooners' whale lines. >> i checked everything i have into building an amazing boat. >> whoa. whoa. >> did they hit it? i can't see. i thought they hit him. >> get some binoculars. get some binoculars. >> do you see people? >> no, i don't see any people. oh, my god. >> larry: lauren, thanks for joining us. you were on the adi gil when it went down. what happened? >> well, we were drifting at the point when we got rammed we tried to slow it down so the "bob barker" could slow it up. we were running very low on fuel. one of the last ships passing by was the ashimoro number two and it made a sharp turn to the right. it rammed us. >> larry: did that change your feelings about sea shepherd? did it increase them?