human services, department of human services were not subject to appropriations but coming give us lipservice hearings call with the democracy be better off? >> ii understand why people want to coerce and control the american people and ensure congress cannot represent people in an effective way. i want to go back to the ranking member. if in fact the cfp be does not know about individuals how did that money get back out? the case that i am told that they are paying white americans for racial discrimination. you cannot have it both ways. the idea of trying to stop 2007 and 2008 make some limited sense. the idea that we leap from that to deciding that we are going to look at everything anybody doesn't america remarkably secretive. >> my time is up. the chair recognizes himself for an additional five minutes and will also then recognize the ranking member for an additional five minutes. to that point i would agree with you. personally identifiable information is taken by the cfp be contrary to prior testimony. he now agree that they do collect personally identifiable information. >> yes or no.