you said all of the right things to conservatives to bring the gop to majority control and use the top leadership positions there. you solemnly vowed to rid us of obamacare, which you can do simply by refusing to fund it. why haven't you done so? , when it is at it the creed that we should be forced to pay for the murder of babies why won't you decree that americans should no longer pay a fourhhs? -- pay for hhs? what of all the other oppressive and evil organizations are immorally funded by our tax dollars. other agencies you solemnly pledged to put out of our misery? you have done nothing over the last two years but as excuses and more commitment that tomorrow you are going to honor those promises. gentlemen, we're promises are concerned you are not what you promised to be. do you want to store -- the one to restore your reputations as conservative leaders? all you need to do is on your promises. they were good ones. watch what happens. you will be heroes. jeb bush, about the proposed tax increases of yours. apparently you did not get the memo that when republicans agreed to cut -- when republicans agree to raise taxes if democrats agree to cut on hisg

assure answer from anyone, both of the budgets not only house democratic budget but republican budget are asking for very contentiousesques one wants to us get rid of obamacare, that was a big struggle and the other wants to us get rid of the sequester cuts, which we've been haranging about for weeks now. neil: that just wastes time, every time they do that and add to more spending, we keep talking past each other, and the problem gets out ofiole. >of control. >> yeah how do we compromise. that is the question, there is no way to narrow the gap, you are asking the other side to raise their hand, and say, i don't know what to say and auction work i am we -- away and we cannot afford that. neil: they are walking away right now with more spending in the house, i agree that neither is going anywhere for the time. but i'm not seeing anything taming the grove of spending in the interim. so, deficits get worse, debt gets bigger problems get more inser mount able to me. >> right. soon we'll all look at detroit or greece or cyprus or mexico city. >> do you think that is where we are headed? >> pretty much, it happened during the great depression, it of created not by

melissa: tomorrow marks the third anniversary of obamacare of. you've heard us tell you all the ways the white house says your health care costs are going down. i think it is safe to say not everyone is sell greating this milestone. get this. the country's biggest insurance carrier, unitedhealth group, said in the "wall street journal" that people yuls for some of their own clients could skyrocket by more than 100%. look at that 116, or more they said. here to help u crunch the numbers, john lacy, vice president of group benefits with boo sard insurance. i thought this was supposed to bring costs down. seems across the board no matter which irns insurance company you look at aetna, blue cross, costs are going up. how is that possible? >> melissa, the one thing that wasn't exactly clear, health care reform actually changed some of the rules for community rating. when they changed those community rating rus, the carriers no clearly when you do that some premiums are going to rise. there is no doubt some of these premiums, for some individuals and small groups will

of all, let's talk about what the cruz amendment does. it prohibits discretionary funds from being used for the affordable care act, affectionately known by some of us as obamacare because obama does care. so the cruz amendment would prevent the department of health and human services from implementing the affordable care act. this would mean the staff, for example, at c.m.s. couldn't issue or enforce regulations on insurance abuse practices, like gender discrimination. quality reforms that improve the care that everybody does and actually lower costs. for example, johns hopkins, lung transplants were cited as one study. madam president, i'm going to -- i could go on but really if the gentleman from utah, who inadvertently had to leave -- is the gentleman ready to speak? we were alternating. it actually is your turn. so, madam chair, as robust and charismatic as my remarks will be, i will simply withhold them to give the senator from utah his rightful chance to speak on the amendment. mr. lee: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from utah. mr. lee: madam president, first of all, i'd like to extend my gratitude to my -- my colleague from maryland

of arkansas. the governor has proposed using funding from obamacare to buy health insurance for the poor from the private market. a little complicated, but interesting. the state has received the go-ahead from the department of health and human services to pursue the plan. lower income americans, which receive higher-quality care for private insurers. i'll come to the show, it's great to have you here. >> it is great to be here, gerri. gerri: we have a democratic governor, republican state legislator. you guys have described this as moving the ball downfield. tell me about this plan, my is a good interview? >> well, we have a lot of -- my colleagues have worked a lot on this issue over the last several weeks. we feel like we are heading towards free-market flexibility and this could allow arkansas to put more of our constituents in market-based plans and we think this is a good thing. we think over the long run that we will be able to do that and push the costco down. gerri: to that point, the cbo said they don't agree with that last thing you said, they said that private insurance can cost as muc

part of obamacare that really screws the health insurance companies or this isn't the purpose as there will be now must pay there were a number of ideas that were bipartisan ideas that several of us here probably might not have liked that were bipartisan west gracious rejected so they can claim down our throats the obamacare you should have exactly as they read it and now the republicans are now the republicans are saying oh it's expiring we don't like more of tonight's big picture well. let me let me i want to know what let me ask you a question. here on this board is we're having a debate we have or in. this space thing there's again we're in a situation where we talk about the name and we. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call i don't know. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot but you sir are a fool you know what kind of terrorist cells you want to give us to defeat te

obamacare, 1.4 trillion dollars in new spending coming up because of this program. what i'm asking is we consider to defund the implementation of an obamacare and give us at least a numberars, if we can't do-- >> but what specifically do you defund? how do you do it and how much will it save? >> it will save a few billion dollars. that's all we know, that's what it will save government, but it will save the private sector, it will save the real world. it will help millions of americans keep their current employer sponsored health insurance, stop hhs from continuing to implement a very unpopular law that's driving up premiums. it doesn't save much money, but it saves the health care system for many americans and prevents this escalation of medicaid expansion that many governors have now agreed to propose and fund from the federal government. >> sean: have you spoken with the speaker? have you spoken to eric cantor about it and have you gotten a lot of support from your colleagues? i personally would love to see, you know, congress cut back on spending through the cr. would i like to see more cuts. i'd like to see us live within our means. i know, paul ryan is going to co

tracy: you know, many of us want preventative care in obamacare; right? is, you can argue, is part of preventative care. i want to know how much you weigh because, you know, studies show the more you weigh, the more you cost me, so cvs just trying to watch the bottom loin. >> well, cvs is trying to watch their bottom line. this month's health affairs has shown that actually wellness programs don't work with people with exactly these risk factors. they don't work at all. that's the first problem. the second problem is is most people do not want their employers and their insurers to know anymore about their health or their bodies than they already know, so this is very sensitive material that's collected, the data's collected, we don't control where it goes. it's not kept safely. we don't have a data map even to know where it goes, who is selling it, who uses it, or why, and we don't have a chain of custody to know what happens to our sensitive health information so these systems and these wellness programs and this kind of approach really, really raised peo

obamacare may be the law of the land. that's not stopping senator ted cruz, he joins us. >> great to see you. >> greta: so you're proposing an amendment to the continuing resolution to slowdown the funding of obamacare. explain what you want and why? >> well, i think the top priority of every elected representative in washington should be economic growth. if you look at the past four years, our economy's not growing and the last four years it's grown 0.8% a year and as a result of that stagnant growth we're not able to get 23 million people back to work, our federal balance sheet remains a train wreck. the only way to deficit, to solve the debt and get people back to work, to get opportunity flowing again is to get growth. this last quarter we had growth at 0.1%, so this week on the continuing resolution, i'm introducing an amendment that is entitled restore growth first, and what it would do is delay funding obamacare until we get back to historic levels of growth. with the economy stagnant, if we implement obamacare now, it will kill jobs, it will hammer small businesses. and it could well push us into recession, that d

obamacare. a san diego bakery is sounding the alarm. whopping 65%. with oneness, the owner of baked in the sun. rachel, thank you for beg with us today. es obamacare kill more than half your profit? >> welcome i estimate that the cost of the implementation would be about 100 up of $200,000. we are a small business and there is a narrow margin. the whole industry that we are in has a narrow margin. thousands of businesses like ours have narrow margins that will be faced with this exorbitant costs come january 1. how they choose to implement i and to face it is a question. whether or not they can pass it on in terms of price increases to their customers or whether they have to shut off their doors. >> breaking it down just a littleit, this is pretty dramatic. you did a great job of breaking down the cost for us. so we couldeither pay an increased cost, $180,000 per year, or you could get rid of insurance and pay the penalty and pay only 100 30,000 dollars a year. it sounds to me, and rachel, sound like the government is incentivizg you not to provide cover sure employees. what you say? >> welcome i think it dends. we don't know exactly w

>> i'll tell you most of the american people are with us on this repeal of obamacare and we're talkingbusinesses, employers and group insurance participants and you would be amazed at how much insurance rates are going up. it is absolutely unbelievable. young people that are looking at escalation rates in their health insurance costs of anywhere from 145 to 200%. tracy: right. >> that is info that came back to us. the tracy, they're saying get this done. this is recognition that it does need to be done. i am so pleased that we passed this through the house. that we're able to say, this is our marker. you don't need more taxes. you need to get the spending under control. let's get in behind this and get it done. tracy: it's a nonstarter once it makes to the senate. >> i disagree with the that. tracy: the democrats at least don't want this to go anywhere? >> you're right. they don't. when are we going to do what we've done in the house and settle down and start to work on these issues? that's what people want to see, and i think this is a good lesson for the senate. we've done our work.

undefined bit that's now undefined it we all of us that may want to think like oh oh we're for preexisting conditions because of the most popular item out of obamacare if the item that most of the american public is in favor of and that will benefit the most number of cyclists said just because hitler like milk doesn't mean we are going to get our this is really about republicans figuring out finally that public opinion is in favor of people actually getting health care well i think in general i've i think everybody wants everybody have health care it's how you go about it those that amount of government involvement in i grieve the cole i think they found the one part that people seem to like to meet and they're not risking anything and they've gone after it i mean any logical opposition to obamacare or for this type of health care program so i don't think they do it really just if you're against it i think you should be against i don't really think you should piecemeal stick with your guns on this i mean maybe this is an improvement to something and and you're sort of only selling yourself this is i mean the letterbox even this is the one part of o

of our country. >> john: a good cancer. that brings us to myth number 6. obamacare is good for business. [ applause ] >> john: democrats say it is. >> the fact it's very good for small business. >> they are why we committed us to this cause. >> john: white house says business will not suffer under health reform. >> john: all good, obamacare? >> you can't be wealthy unless you are healthy. >> you remember the congressman support of obamacare. >> remember the republican plan, don't get sick. if you do get sick, die quickly. >> john: i was surprised he used to be a businessman and help create a tech company. >> john: you are unusual having created wealth, run i.d. t. -- i would think you would see the burden of all these rules. >> one rule has had a dramatic impact on job creating or small business. >> john: it's the pile of rules. here is obamacare and this is just the start. many pages say the secretary shall produce more regulation. >> put together i would say a pile of rules. >> john: what about the tax on medical devices. a puchblg of democrats object to this. >>

of obamacare. i think obamacare itself moves us toward a single-payer system. i want to see consumers more in control of health care. if we reall want to have a market for health care, that doesn't eat our economy alive in the future, we have to move this toward more competition and more consumer-led behavior. melissa: kevin, brian will not get his wish. let's move on to your wish . what do you think about, maybe we were talking in the segment, i'm so sorry, brian, that wilnot work out for you. >> get it. i get it. melissa: what about the code, the idea we'll have a 10% bracket and maybe 25% bracket, also perhaps farfetched but still interesting? >> right. in fact you mentioned it. with the congressman that it looked likehey even fuzzed up the language on that a little bit. melissa: they did on the second part. >> felt like they were backing away. i would say my one wish we have a year where there is regular order. i think we might have that. regular order means that the house does a budget, senate has a unwith jet. they argue about it, publicly, rather than in

they had a continuing resolution last week, that they could have used to try and cut some of obamacare administrative expenses, put some language in it in order to curtail obamacare. obamacare is the big killer in this society and not just of health care, but of liberty and the constitution, and what do they do? they vote for it. not only do they vote for it, they don't allow conservatives in the house to put an amendment on it. obama's not taking boehner seriously, he's kicking him around like a soccer ball. that's the problem, the republicans have got to show they mean something, if they don't, this is going to continue and as far as obama goes, mr. president, you said you would not raise taxes on the middle class. you increase those payroll taxes. why do you keep lying to the american people? you said you wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class. we've got all kinds of taxes on medical devices, on insurance plans that are passed on to the people. we've got all kinds of taxes and not only that, businesses are going to reduce employment 40 hours a week, 30 hours a week, to 29 hours a

of his second term. those ratings hurt republican and conservative brands and brought us president barack obama, and "obamacare." it is kind of the opposite of a permanent republican majority, you might say. of course, there is a way for us to come together and unite for a common purpose. conservatives will not be bullied into throwing -- in the 2010, president obama and his policies showed us that he was a unifying force for conservatives. we must make obama that again in 2014. friends, president obama in his second inaugural address all but declared war on the conservative movement. it took him four years, but finally the real barack obama, the one we all knew, exposed himself as an unabashedly liberal ideologue all to see. obamaderate myth that portrayed, aided openly by his friends in the mainstream media, that he was a transformational leader who would transcend politics is a complete and utter lie. the soaring rhetoric from his keynote address at the 2004 democratic convention was replaced by a deeply partisan campaign speech in the guise of his second inaugural. one has to take a look at when president

of obamacare. fox news political correspondent marc seigel tells us about efforts to make big changes in the most basic >> dr. crumbhold as the country top health policy efforts is proposing sweeping changes to how hospitals and doctors treat patients. he sees the patient as more than just a diagnose know analysis. as a person with a series of health challenges responding best to a team approach. >> the idea of team believe it or not relatively new in medicine. for us to succeed we have to work together, inpatient, outpatient, nurses, doctors, healthcare worker, educators, everyone has to get soldier socl workers, nonmedical personnel. what does this patient need to be successful? >> one in five medicare patient has an acute problem within a month after hospital discharge that requires them to be readmitted. dr. crumbholt latest research calls this post hospital syndrome. it costs the healthcare system billions. he believes even a small reduction could save money and save lives! here at yale new haven hospital innovative researchers are reengineering the healthcare system so it meets the patient's need

know way to control it and it's a lot of waste and let's reward quality and by the way, this is the hope for us, one of the thrusts of obamacarelet's put in more regulations and let's try to reward doctors for doing what's called quality medicine. but there's a big down side to this. first of all, who's going to determine this? second of all, doctors are going to cherry pick their patients, doctors are going to say, i don't want that patient. too many problems, can't be efficient with that patient. things keep going wrong. he falls into the volume category, i can't make them better, they're sick, they're sick, i'm going to be penalized. and then surgeons are going to say, i've trained ten years, 15 years to do the high-tech solution and they're not paying me for it anymore, why did i go to school for that. i got to be the best doctor in the country and-- >> what do you mean they wouldn't pay for it anymore, we're going to pay you, just incentivize you to bring value to the process as opposed to churn them and burn them. >> because, there's something called bundling payments they're going to do as part of it. i like it conceptu

all of us standing in legal issues, but justice roberts will do a lot of what he did not obamacare whichng good consensus and not go so far as to find that in the united states constitution there is an unfettered right to same-sex marriage. they're allowed to stand. i think ultimately proposition they will be marked down, but i do not think that they will go all the way. you have an unfettered right. that is just me. ultimately i think you get to the same place. lou: i want to ask you about this. affirmative action. now you will have come by again to me you're going to have something there would be overturning, legislation that would be overturning. now with affirmative-action. the state of michigan makes admissions colorblind. this is still a contest. the last release in michigan. the going to oppose affirmative-action again or are we getting near the ceiling that senator day o'connor put forward on the last ruling the she made as a justice? >> i think we are getting nearer. he read what happened in the university of texas case, the university of michigan case said that race can be a fa

this, but you can do that. >> for the small group that doesn't have insurance obamacare has an advantage. but for those of us who do, so-called preventive services, everyone should have birth control, colonoscopies and mammograms. i'm worried about the high-tech solutions, chemotherapy, and just to give you one examination, high-tech solutions are really important to us and to our patients and they're going to be in jeopardy. >> mike: another factor we're just learning is that every employer is going to have another $63 per employee added as an extra tax on the provision of obamacare. these costs have to be passed on somewhere or they have to be cut from what doctors and other providers are going to get. how is that going to affect the impact on a patient? >> governor, i want to give you an idea what kind of money we're talking here. united auto workerses $63 dollars evens millions. and boeing, employees dependent on the the insurance means 25 million dollars, an enormous amount of money for a company to handle. of course, that gets passed onto the consumer either in terms of higher premiums or dropped polic

obamacare is starting to the middle class hard. the house ways and means oversight committee, part of the committee for writing tax laws. we have douglas holtz he didn't with usregarding how the middle class will be treated with obamacare, it turns out the promises are not true. >> i think that is unmistakable. obamacare has a lot of tax in it. this is $800 billion in taxes and when you hear that that is kind of a number, you wonder who will foot the bill. a lot of these will turn out to be higher insurance premiums, some of them will be taxes directly on the policy. a lot of them are going to harm economic growth. in the end, we know how many workers are out there and we know how poor the income growth has been. gerri: even now, people don't really understand what we are going to be on the hook for. health insurance premiums taxes, which you've just mentied, medical device taxes, it is quick to be devastating to companies. people are going to lose jobs and employer individual insurance is going to rising costs as well. we were promised that it wasn't going to raise the deficit. but will it? >> i don't see others how there's any way that they can't raise the

of the work we're doing here today. and with that -- [applause] thank you. thank you for joining us today. as neera said we're talking about the promise of reform how obamacare effects us. we agree that joe biden that health care is a big deal. who are lgbt people? research shows that there are about 8 million americans about 3.5% of the population who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. about 700,000 according to the same research identify as transgender. that means that at least 9 million americans identify as lesbian, gay, by -- bisexual or transgender. we know that many have engaged in same-sex behavior. and more than 25 million who are more than 11% of the population acknowledge same-sex attraction. some of the social determinant how healthy lgbt people are able to be, unfortunately predispose us to disparity in health status and health care access. some of the particular concerns that lgbt populations experience include a lack of data, a lack ever official data about what it's like to be an lgbt person in the u.s. today. allowing too many people in positions of power making decisions about our lives to believe if there's no data, there'

so i'm a yes, i believe the success of obamacare does depend the use of nurse practitioners. the louisville, kentucky. good morning. caller: i want to comment on what the physician said a while ago about nurses. he did not use this word, but inapept. why wife is a nurse practitioner, and has been so for about eight years. she takes very good care of her patients. she takes better care than some positions i know. as far as misdiagnosis, he mentioned about the person who had hemorrhoids, and they diagnosed it as cancer, -- i'm sorry, i am nervous. i was told i had the heart of a 16-year-old, went home, had a massive heart attack. .octors are not gods their humans, just like nurse practitioners. my wife and all nurse practitioners for what they go through. that is my comment. , thank you soain much for the accolades. it is important to her member that what we need to talk about here are outcomes. nurse practitioners have been studied for almost 50 years. i can think of no other healthcare discipline where research has been done to demonstrate safety, efficacy, and affordability.

of the biggest problems associated with obamacare? let's ask betsy mccoy, author of needing obamacare and joins us with her version of now law in her lapg its own seat. >> and i read this so you don't have to. >> it's troubling right now as we start to see what's unfolding and take us through some of the problems that we are now facing. number one, higher premiums. >> higher premiums, you're going to see premiums go up for people in their 20's and 30's, double. the reasons are three-fold. first, when insurance companies are required to cover more, it means you the consumers are required to pay more. it's like passing a law that the only car you can buy is a fully loaded cadillac, no more hondas. same thing, you can't buy an inexpensive plan anymore, secondly, 100 billion dollars new taxes on insurers, and for any company that gets taxed more it passes it on to the consumer. and thirdly as you heard nancy pelosi say, insurers have to cover people no matter how sick they are when they buy the policy and the cost of the very sick person has to be spread on everybody else. >> and higher premiums, they said it's not going to happen and it s

of obamacare. the measure meant to help workers. the owner of just cupcakes joins us. nice to see you, carla. >> thank you so much. >> greta: tell me the impact. i mean, i know a little of the story is that you have a number of employees and what, about ten employees? >> well, we have an about 25 employees overall, yes, ten minimum wage. >> greta: and the ten that are minimum wage, what's the expectation? what are you going to do about them? >> you know, they're great workers and we love having them, but certainly if the minimum wage goes up, we'll have to make some drastic changes. >> greta: what is the the job that the minimum workers-- minimum wage workers have in your business? >> their job is to take the order, fill the order, greet the customer, and ring it up, and you know, send them on their way. >> greta: and i take it, i mean, if there's some sort of technology or something that you could do to replace them, is that it? i mean, a lot of people can't be replaced by robots or technology? >> well, not everybody can be replaced by technology, but you know, with p

of obamacare is. >> it's going to bankrupt us. >> sure. >> it will bankrupt us. >> they don't. >> let me go to you, money bills originate in the house, what do you hear? >> they have already caved on it. we have had this conversation last couple of years. john boehner said, it's the law of the land. he walked that back afterwards, but that is what he is thinking. this is a fight that will take place in policy documents and political documents like ryan budget but when it comes to funding -- voting on bills that will become law, obamacare -- >> this continuing resolution does not have funding for bom a bomb -- for obamacare. >> it won't. >> they will find a deal to fund it through other monies, they will not crimp it, obama will not sign thinking that will slow it down. >> we will track it, i have to jump, this is a big fed day, stocks generally liked what they heard from ben bernanke, i wonder if he was signaling a little let easy money, that is my take next up on kudlow. there's this island -- and it's got super-cute kangaroos. barrow island has got rare kangaroos. ♪ chevron has been developing en

balance the budget in ten years, but includes a repeal of obamacare, that's at best highly unlikely, is it not? in a couple of minutes, a senator will join ust met with president obama last week. does he think the president is sincere about making a deal? will he shift his idea on the key issues? 9:33 this morning. now this, another hit to apple's coolness? samsung will unveil its new galaxy 4 this week and there's a lot of buzz surrounding a possible new feature. it's called samsung eye scroll. and would sense your eye movement to scroll through the screen. remember when apple's announcement got this kind of buzz? well, now it's samsung's galaxy. more on the eye scroll, by the way in the next hour. dr. marc siegel, would you believe some on the production team believes it's bad for your eyes? we'll go off on a tan gent with the eye scroll. are we set for more gains at the opening bell? yes, looks like we are. back in a moment. the >> all right. monday morning, one minute till the opening bell. i, like you, want to know if this rally is going to continue. we've got a lot of smiles around the studio this morning. let's bring in the managing

of it. >> obamacare will limit that to $2,500 which i don't like, but a lot of people that have them are not usinghem properly now. so, i say use that $2,500 properly. it's a tax break. you should use it for what i call nonessential services. if you're not sick, figure out in advance, what can i use it for? >> neil: prescription -- >> prescription, trips to the doctor when you're not sick. when you're going into the hospital you want your health insurance to kick in. if not, you can use our flex spending account. >> neil: a lot of is just common sense, talking to your doctor. >> you'd be surprised how many people don't. ask your doctor, are you going to take obamacare insurance? medicare and medicaid? half the doctors in the country are not taking medicaid. >> i notice a lot of your colleagues are not dealing with insurance, give you the bill and pay in cash. and. >> you can have a negotiation before you could in. doc, your bill says $400 but maybe you'll see me for 200. doctors love cash. >> neil: what if they cut back on the care? i've never done this with my doctor before. cheap skate, you're g

obamacare. law turning three years old today. left couldn't be happier. >> it helps us ofonor of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness >> eric: a gift now standing 6'7" taller than the president. cashin' in, crashing the party right now. >> eric: i'm eric boling and "cashin' in" crew is with us this. we and welcome everybody. don't crack the bubbly just yet. it's been three years since president obama signed obamacare into law. regulations keep growing and growing. is it starting to get messy. republicans declaring messy that is one of architects saying it himself. >> i think we know it is going to be messy. there will be things that come up that are unanticipated. >> eric: he is right. when we bought the cake. woman said obamacare that is why my hours got cut. i guess we can expect more of that? >> you are going to see a lot more of that. this is direct impact that it is having. we had the legislation and people are trying to read it and get through it. now you see the regulations piling up a and practical day to day coming out in the form of a woman who is trying to mak

of us. now, we know that obamacare just raised $1 trillion of taxes, much it falling on working families, the so-called fiscal cliff raised taxes almost another $700 billion, much of it falling on small business owners who can no longer offer raises, promotions or even hire new workers. and now all these democrat budgets are looking for an additional $1 trillion of tax increase on top of that. that comes to about $9,000 for every working household in america. mr. chairman, that's not fair. that's not helpful for this struggling economy. no nation in the history of the world has ever taxed its way into prosperity. america will not be the first. mr. chairman, no nation has every spent its way into prosperity either, yet the democrat budgets continue a spending spree that's driving us toward national bankruptcy. a day of reckoning is coming. you cannot have federal programs going at 2%, 4%, 6%, 8% when the new reality under this president is 1.5% to 2% economic growth, and the family budget, which ultimately pays for the federal budget, is stagnant. now, the families i represent in the fifth con

we say get rid of obamacare, we apply those savings to medicare to make medicare more solvent as a trust fund. >> used them to make obamacare seem budget neutral. deficit hawks say it will leave medicare in even worse shape. >> there's a lot more savings that has to be done and we already use those savings for a new federal health care spending. >> democrats note ryan would keep those cuts to medicare. >> ryan says he will include those savings in his budget savings that he campaigned actively against. >> again, ryan would leave all that money in medicare. on the heels of ryan, they are proposing their own budget for the first time in four years, president obama delayed his budget until april. overall ryan's budget would not cut federal spending, but only reduce the rate of increase. mr. obama's plan calls for $46 trillion more in spending over the next decade. ryan would reduce that. one of his cuts would be 141 billion to the food stamps program. it has grown to an all-time high with 47 million recipients in december. ryan argued his cuts would be only a minor change. >> food stamps would have grown

it for a different set of people in obamacare. using it for people who didn't pay for the program. on our side of the aisle we want to take that savings and use it for our seniors. it's their money. they deserve to get it. and use it to shore up the program. this makes sense. you talk about facts and numbers. think back to what the president told us with obamacare. he said, listen, you're going to see your health care costs go down by $2,500 a year per family of four. the truth? what happened? health care costs went up by $3,000 a year for a family of four. that's a $5,500 turnaround for a family of four in this health care reform bill. listen, that's a lot of money for a hardworking american family. let's talk about what else has been discussed on my friends across the aisle. if you recall the stimulus bill, $1 trillion of spending, remember? we were supposed to spend $1 trillion and get an unemployment rate by 2013 of 5.2%. well, the reality is we're sitting at 7.7% but if you add back in everyone who stopped looking for work because

obamacare. now, of course that's silly, none of us has to go through and read that thing, right? want to apply for obamacare in the form of medicaid or the children's health program, you will need to fill out this 21-page health and human services application and you might need a little help along the way because there are multiple questions about the income, your employer health care status. your race, ethnicity and then when you're done, seal it up and send it off because there are three major federal agencies that want to look at it, including the irs, and remember, that's just to qualify for financial help. then when all that's done, that's when you get to pick a health plan and a health care provider, but keep in mind, megyn, you will be able to keep your doctor. >> megyn: away from the fog, we see that. trace, thank you. >> reporter: sure. >> megyn: well, a controversial story by a prominent journalist is questioning whether president obama is playing games with republicans and the media and the country at large this week. well, look at the claims that the recent outreach e

us. >> good to be with you. lou: good to have you here. up next in the third anniversary of obamacare is here.a particularly happy anniversary for a lot of americans. certainly not the anniversary we are told we would have by our commander-in-chief. that is in the "chalk talk" tonight. the man at the center of the chinese exeunt -- espionage plot appears in court today and says he is not guilty. we take the case. we're coming right back. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] from the w the bristles move to the way they clean, once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never go back to a regular manual brush. its three eaning zones with dynamic power bristles reach between teeth with more brush movements to remove up to 100% more plaque than a regular manual brush. and even 76% more plaque than sonicare flexcare in hard to reach areas. oral-b deep sweep 5000 power brush. life opens up when you do. ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't createhe future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of u

of elections have shown us, passion and principle is great. >> sean: but that's passion and principle. >> you need to win elections and how you actually change stuff. obama is not going to sign the repeal of obamacarehe u.s. senate after the 1994 election, because i thought things wouldn't change if real right wingers didn't go and work there and i remember what happened. things were going gang busters, first republican congress in 40 years, we cut taxes and that gave us the magnificent economy that clinton brags about and yet, that government got shut down in the end of 1995, our first, the republicans first term there. it really, really hurt republicans because it looks like we can't care about the things that-- >> they hung on, they won. not only that, but that's how we got to a balanced budget. >> it hurt us, it hurt us trying to push other things and this is -- repealing obamacare, yes, keep talking about it and putting it in. unless obama signs a repeal of obamacare. >> sean: that's symbolic, that means obamacare will never be taken out. >> no, it isn't. i plan on winning the senate back in two years. >> sean: on health care, what you're suggesting is the republicans only do the symbolic vote

obamacare, employee obese it'd costs us a fortune. >> that's fair enough. >> with or without obamacare. >> that's a fair point, but none of this happened-- >> only 8% eat right, exercise daily, don't drink to excess and don't smoke. only 8% are even trying. >> they're very boring people. >> brian, that being said, all of these new intrusive approaches, private sector or public, have only started after obamacare. >> why do you call it intrusive, though? if somebody's unhealthy, right, grotesquely obese and it's costing me as a company owner three times as much, my other employees have to suffer for that person. >> but that's happening on a nationwide basis. i think meme will agree, across the board because we're all paying for it. that's a better argument against obamacare than for intrusiveness. should -- let me just finish. should they charge more if you're out in the sun too long? >> possibly. >> they're charging not only for smokers but people using nicotine. >> it's about the insurance actuaries. that's what they decide. >> that's because obamacare won't allow underwriting and charge for different risks. >> i think we should have g