pakistan or as a dozen al-qaeda linked suspects but it's seemingly not enough for the us this ten year terrorist i.q. stations at pakistan's nuclear powered militant safe haven are driving a deeper way between the country. and that's up for discussion next as peter lavelle's guess examine where pakistan and the us go from here cross talk coming up after a short break. and . take a. listen to the. following a welcoming hostile computor little destined to be front of me again pakistan u.s. relations face a breaking point the u.s. says pakistan is hedging its bets by maintaining ties to militant groups that are trying to undermine the government in neighboring afghanistan and pakistan replies that washington's rhetoric is counterproductive and would only play into the hands of militant groups how long can this get lean brace continue. to take. to cross talk us pakistan relations i'm joined by stephen cohen in washington he's a senior fellow at the brookings institution also in washington we have jacob hornberger he's founder and president of the future of freedom foundation and in islamab

folding the warming and consequent disposal with pakistan's intelligence and security agencies that interdicted a large number of the operatives for the us losing pakistan as an ally would undermine its strategic goals in the region pakistan provides key military transit routes to get a stand in houses a base for unmanned u.s. drones you know this hasn't stopped u.s. officials from offering to support military action against the network but if the experts believe that we need to elevate our response they will have a lot of bipartisan support on capitol hill my being a straight shooter has repeatedly pressured pakistan to attack a common that work and groups the us teams of present to its presence in afghanistan and will in statements reflect washington's uneasiness over how the two countries geopolitical interests continue to diverge and the saltire region and that's where the relationship stance debate thank you very much for that much of a shift in islam that i go to you first and i like to quote the president of the united states transition out of afghanistan and leave a stable government behind one that is independent one that is res

that's exactly what's up for discussion now here on our team is peter the vals gas examine where pakistan and the us go from here in crosstalk. ok. listen you think you can. follow me in welcoming hostile computor little destined to be front of me again pakistan u.s. relations face a breaking point the u.s. says pakistan is hedging its bets by maintaining ties to militant groups that are trying to undermine the government in neighboring afghanistan and pakistan replies that washington's rhetoric is counterproductive and would only play into the hands of militant groups how long can this get really embrace continue living can. start. to cross talk us pakistan relations i'm joined by stephen cohen in washington he's a senior fellow at the brookings institution also in washington we have jacob hornberger he's founder and president of the future of freedom foundation and in islamabad we cross to the dk she's a pakistani political commentator and author of the book military incorporated inside pakistan's military economy all right folks crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you wan

regional influence in his speech to the senate mullen accused pakistan's intelligence agency eyes side of colluding with kani insurgent groups the us has long been aware of the fact that pakistan may be assisting insurgents but mall in statement is the first of its kind it's cost furious reactions in pakistan where authorities have denounced the claims and pointed to the country's own losses and the war on terror thirty thousand pakistanis it is well known that for doing that they were warming and consequent disposed to go off with pakistan's intelligence and security agencies that interdicted a large number of boko they were created for the us losing pakistan as an ally would undermine a strategic goals in the region pakistan provides key military transit routes through vienna stand and house as a base for unmanned u.s. drones but all this hasn't stopped u.s. officials from offering to support military action against the kind of network but if the experts believe that we need to elevate our response they will have a lot of bipartisan support on capitol hill bomb administrator has repeatedly pressured pakistan to attack the calming

pakistanis and others you know it's been a victim more than anything else but pakistan is a very dangerous state and i'd like us jacob what he would do should there be an attack on the united states that was launched from pakistan whether or not the pakistani government knew but we had one attack like that in new york the times square bombing that didn't go up in the bin other attacks organized from pakistan against you but it's what would he do to respond to that would he simply accept the do nothing in response i think that's a danger that america might overreact to attack on the united states launched from pakistan to get lead to a great good because you had jihadist ideas which are the good would be the problem the problem the problem with stephen and others of his philosophy is they don't go to the root of the problem and the root of the problem is the u.s. imperial. foreign policy that he denies even know anything about you got it you've got an empire here with seven hundred to a thousand military bases all over the world it's primary goal is regime change we've seen that in libya a country that never att

of the most pro pakistan officials in washington has referred to the country as the epicenter of world terrorism but his most recent remarks have added fuel to the fire. choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy the government of pakistan and most especially the pakistani army and. jeopardizes not only the prospect of our strategic partnership but pakistan's opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional in floor in his speech to the senate mullen accused pakistan's intelligence agency isiah of colluding with the kani insurgent group the u.s. has long been aware of the fact that pakistan may be assisting insurgents but mall in statement is the first of its kind it's cost furious reactions in pakistan where authorities have denounced the claims and pointed to the country's own bosses and the war on terror thirty thousand pakistanis it is well known that forming the tora bora warming and consequent disposal of it was back on the intelligence and security agencies that interdicted a large number of the operatives for the us losing pakistan as an ally would undermine its strategic goals in the region pakistan provides key military transi

mean intelligence things over the last ten years pakistan has repeatedly compromised its own sovereignty to help the americans in their operations the us while chasing down suspected terrorists has been bombing pakistan with drones on a regular basis the strikes have killed thousands of civilians use of drone attacks is not against our sovereignty it is also counterproductive it's the people of the two want to be friends in the spite against terrorism after the latest threats from washington fearing an even tougher assault thousands of pakistanis angrily rallied to say enough is enough for these people the us is a hostile power it's china that they see as a friend in the americans in this one instance have hand it over a major hearts and minds victory to the chinese in pakistan in spring china officially notified washington that any attack on pakistan will be seen as an act of aggression against beijing the pakistani prime minister praised his country's relations with china calling them quote higher than mountains deeper than oceans stronger than steel and sweeter than honey washington on the other hand seems to have mastered the art o

pakistan a safe haven for terrorists we can now hear. coming across the border attacking our fortunes attacking afghanistan and afghanistan us and then disappearing back into a safe haven that is next for the economy network for one acts as a veritable arm of pakistan's internal services intelligence agency pakistanis furious over the accusations calling them unsubstantiated and saying that washington came very close to losing a major ally in its war on terror if you talk about things i'm quite sure you know it says an incident in the terrorist organizations around the world which by which we mean intelligence things over the last ten years pakistan has repeatedly compromised its own sovereignty to help the americans in their operations the u.s. while chasing down suspected terrorists is being bombing pakistan with drones on a regular basis the strikes have killed thousands of civilians youth of going attacks is not against our sovereignty it is also called the productive it's the people with the one who has friends in the spite against terrorism after the latest trends from washington nearing an even tougher assault thousands of pakistanis angri

a few minutes and in about three hours time roger argues cross-talk a date and what's ahead for us pakistan relations. because american and pakistani interest are so different you know afghanistan and with regard to support for these terrorist groups we could see the move of american policy from alliance with pakistan which is a nominal one it's someone it's of which both sides lie to each other it's like a very bad marriage where both sides were unfaithful to the other two containment we could see america moving towards a containment containing pakistan but i don't think that's going to happen i think it's mostly because the nice understand they need america very good relationship they're going to be culturally politically there's no one truly bush in there that we're trying to get out we try to punish the people who are united states we've done some most of that and there's a lot of arguing for getting out very quickly so the obama much of the right. now the republicans want to get out of a very quickly if you want to jump in there and. stephen the government's been killing people for mor

partner in the militant group, calling pakistan his country's twin brother, karzai said he would use pakistans a channel for talking with the taliban because of its connections to the group. >>> and next to the philippines, where one of the country's long-term nickel mines came under attack earlier this week. communist rebels claimed responsibility and accused the miners of harming local people and the environment. >>> this photo shows the smoldering aftermath of the attack which took place on monday. hundreds of guerrillas stormed a mining site on the southern yiechbld mindanao. a subsidiary of japan's sumitomo metal mining was among those targeted no one was harmed in the incident. in a statement issued on tuesday communist rebels claimed responsibility. the group named the companies it said threatened local people and the environment. it listed accusations including the cutting down of trees and widespread use of sulfuric acid which the rebels claim is harmful to humans and nature. the communists vow to step up efforts at mining by foreign firms in the philippines. i'm patchari racks wong

us. pakistan cannot evade its responsibility over its role in allowing and supporting these attacks. at the least, pakistan needs to condemn the attacks of the haqqanis in pakistan, and pakistani officials must end their denial of the plain truth. the head of the isi called the testimony baseless and denied the haqqani network was even in pakistan and claimed pakistan had not provided the haqqanis a penny or single bullet. the president wrote recently about the losses it to pakistan has suffered from extremist groups. then on terrorizing the pakistani people, but he failed to mention, much less condemn, the attacks that haqqani and taliban extremists are conducting against our forces in afghanistan. so what actions are open to us to correct the situation? if pakistan will not take on that the threat from the haqqanis based in pakistan who attack our forces, then we should be prepared to take steps to defend our troops. it is consistent with established principles of international law of the united states to defend itself and to defend afghanistan against cross-border attacks by insurg

but the taliban-- using pakistan as a base-- fights on. in a cbs news poll out tonight, we asked americans if the war has been mostly a success. 39% said yes, but 50% said no. we asked whether u.s. forces should be decreased and 62% said yes. there are about 90,000 u.s. troops here, and president obama intends to withdraw about a third of them by next summer. those troops have their hands full. this was a scene that we shot in kandahar province where americans were entering new taliban territory for the first time. u.s. casualties reached an all-time high over the summer. a nato conference in lisbon set 2014 as the date the u.s. will hand security back over to afghanistan. but tonight we're hearing that may not be the end of it. in an interview for "60 minutes", we sat down with the new commanding general for afghanistan, marine corps general john allen, and we asked him about the plan. >> well, the plan is to win. the plan is to be successful. and so while some folks might hear that we're departing in 2014 as a result of the lisbon confer

so it's a really good score you know in terms of you know giving you great tools the tools of us pakistan our children as young as seven for work an average of seventy hours a week instead of going to school and medications not the only thing missing out on with no heating proper bats were drinking water. in the mothers are powerless some of them stood up for their kids protection they were arrested taken to cotton fields they would be forced to work in the day and would be mass raped at night. with a helpful force child labor was because stern produces around one million tons of cotton enough to make one billion. the cortinas sold abroad except for the sixty plus retailers including levi and h. and m. have pledged not to buy cortland because the harvest is so abusive this boycott sends a message to those the government and slaving children is not. a good not a pretty mobile was also as baucus guns and best suited to the un and the deputy foreign minister refutes the claims and she was also outraged when new york fashion week banned her collection from the catwalks two weeks ago but human

pakistan a dozen al-qaeda linked suspects but it's seemingly not enough but the us has ten year terrorist accusations at pakistan's nuclear power safe haven are driving a deeper way between the countries.

secondly, the breadth of the delegation that the secretary led pakistan understand us _ not only the importance of the relation, but the importance we attach to our concerns about the concern is a tree should come not just in pakistan, but also in afghanistan. as it relates to the particular conclusions of the visit, we will leave that to the secretary and her delegation. but the president is obviously appreciative that the secretary led the delegation and a delegation, in its makeup and seriousness underscores the strength of our conviction about these matters. >> the mechanics, for people watching and trying to see -- whether families are home for the holidays. how will this happen and break down? how quickly will people get home and be in a responsible way? >> i will leave it to the pentagon to brief about it. but i will make one comment. i happen to be in iraq over the weekend and happen to see some of things general austin and his team are a section waiting on the ground. -- of fluctuating on the ground. absolutely unbelievably powerful demonstration allow our, not only our stren

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pakistan. taking america's accusations that they support terrorists as a way to shift the blame for the either of us policies on pakistan but the blame game made to go up into full scale aggression the experts believe we need to elevate our response they will have a lot of support on capitol hill u.s. lawmakers have already signaled that if there is the will for tough action against pakistan they'll support it and when washington says the words safe haven for terrorists that's what you expect tough action and if it does happen pakistan could be the new afghanistan but with china as a friend and nuclear bombs at hand sounds like a deadly combination for the united states i'm going to check our reporting from washington r.t. . a lot of folks are not talking about it is the very subject in cross talk show on a in ten minutes time here on the international unfound unfounded arose in fear in curiosity in equal measure evidence of the existence of big foot remains elusive however the hunt for the three shows no sign of ending as art history of north took part in a siberian expedition to track down the lea

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you do not attack militants in pakistan who use pakistan as a base to attack afghans or americans orody else. >> i would completely deny that. i think we've had joint cooperation. i think we have had joint cooperation which goes as recent as, you know, two weeks back when the number three supposedly in al qaeda was arrested in a joint intelligence cooperation, assisted arrest. now within that the recrimination on pakistan is something that we have serious reservations about. >> well, the argument is that pakistan has created a frankenstein's monster by supporting these groups. many of them have turned on pakistan. this is, in fact, the argument that was consistently being made by shazad, the pakistani journalist, the very brave pakistani journalist, who, again, it is widely believed was killed by the pakistani military because he had exposed some of the ties that the pakistani military had with al qaeda. >> okay. first of all, this frankenstein was not created by pakistan. this frankenstein was financed and assisted by many world powers, including that of the u.s. so, while we are le

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us. pakistan cannot evade its responsibility for its role in allowing and supporting these attacks. least pakistan needs to condemn the attacks of the haqqanis in afghanistan, and pakistani officials need to end their denials of the plain truth. lieutenant general pasha, the head of the isi, called admiral mullen's testimony baseless. he denied that the haqqani network was even in pakistan, and he claimed that pakistan had not provided the haqqanis, quote, a penny or provided even a single bullet. president zardari wrote movingly in a recent op-ed about the losses that pakistans has suffered from extremist groups. bent on terrorizing the pakistani people. but he failed to mention, much less condemn, the attacks that haqqani and taliban extremists based in pakistan are conducting against our forces in afghanistan. so what actions are open to us to correct the situation? if pakistan will not take on the threat posed by the haqqanis and other extremist groups based in pakistan who attack our forces in afghanistan, then we should be prepared to take steps to defend our troops. it is con

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military commanders are trying to remedy this problem by calling for expanded attacks in pakistan including using ground forces consider that ground forces that's called an invasion pakistan is an ally and a nuclear equipped one at that now the us has been secretly conducting attacks in pakistan with unmanned predator drones and special combat forces for quite a quite quite some time now attacks that are increasingly does the stabilizing the region and that are fomenting anti-u.s. sentiments all the way to islam above the capital a country sentiments that are now threatening to even topple the government of our ally pakistan that has nuclear weapons how often do we have to say that so can a us invasion of pockets our ally really work to bring about peace bester. i mean is it even possible or are we about to repeat the same mistake we made almost forty years ago in vietnam in cambodia but ultimately lead to the cambodian genocide in the death of two million people only today instead of a genocide the consequence could be pretty pretty evenly graver with pakistan's lose grip on their own nuclear we

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the problem is as one of our intelligence sortses used to say -- sources used to say to us, pakistan is keeping the poisen yows snakes to bite their neighbors' kids, but they will bite their own kids as well. pakistan's playing a dangerous game, and it's up to their leadership ultimately to determine that that's not the best policy. >> it strikes me of -- much of what you studied in the book was secure. it held a -- it was tough to get in there. can you tell me something about your sources and did you have any luck with the nsa which must have played a great part in it? >> so our book is largely drawn from first accounts, from interviews we had with more than 200 individuals throughout the government at the highest levels of the pentagon, the justice department, the fbi, cia, the other intelligence communities, justice department, state department, again, trying to get a whole government approach in our sourcing as we were in our approach to this book. we did receive pretty good cooperation, and i think in large regard, that's because thom and i work this story as beat reporters for

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the problem is, one of our intelligence sources used to say to us, pakistan is keeping these poisonousnakes to bite the neighbors' kids, but they will buy their own kids as well. it is up to them internally to come to the realization that is not the best policy. >> is strikes me that much of what you steady and the book, tough to get in there. can you tell me something about your sources? >> our book is largely drawn from first accounts, antabuse we had with more than 200 individuals throughout the government. again, trying to get as full and approach. we did receive pretty good cooperation in large regard because thom and i have been working this story as lead reporters for the times for 5920 years, and so we're going back to sources who have been working with us basically saying we want to take a step back and try to create the last ten years and put it in perspective. can you help us to that and through their recollections and providing us with certain documents and in giving us the real perspective sometimes after they have left government didn't neville's than to be a little more

and pakistan but what the few countries ever really feel toward us got to. which reason essentially to find out what you have to say. we've all heard it before the question of pakistan's commitment to aiding the u.s. in its war on terror and the stories of pakistan has been playing both sides of mike mullen chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff had stirred the pot once again claiming pakistan supported militant groups in attacks against americans and afghanistan but this past friday the u.s. appeared to back away from the public accusations saying it is not clear on the exact relationship between the i.s.i. and economies but these same questions are being raised over and over again and in an increasingly public setting so with the us want to extend the war into pakistan go on see things that the us has a lot to lose militarily and economically and we're not happy a million agrees saying the u.s. cannot afford another war we are on the brink of an economic collapse now this said judging from the u.s. track record yes we would go to war with pakistan and t

pakistan a dozen al-qaeda linked suspects have been arrested after afghanistan demanded the u.s. put more pressure on islamic bad to fight terrorism but that's not enough to eliminate thoughts in the us that pakistan's government may be sheltering terrorists some in washington are even ready to support action against as a bad as archy's county chickie on reports. the drums of war beating loud and clear washington calls pakistan a safe haven for terrorists. coming across the border attacking our forces attacking the. afghanistan east and then disappearing back into a safe. here carney network for one acts as a veritable arm of pakistan's internal services intelligence agency pakistan is furious over the accusations calling them unsubstantiated and saying that washington came very close to losing a major ally in its war on terror if you talk about links i'm quite sure you know it has been said many terrorist organizations around the world which by which we need intelligence things over the last ten years pakistan has repeatedly compromised its own sovereignty to help the americans in their operations the u.s. while chasing down suspected terrorists has been bombing pakistan with drones