i don't have much sympathy for the insurance companies either but i have a lot of sympathy for us taxpers who are going to have to bail them out. >> eliminate all bailouts? >> yes. >> all safety nets. >> yes. >> i wouldn't go that far. there are deserving recipients. >> like who, for example? >> take a broader picture look at this. i think wealthy people have to bail out needy people, but i would not be in favor of taxing successful corporations in order to bail out unsuccessful ones nor do i think we should be taxing responsible homeowners in order to bailout spend thrifts next door. there are deserving recipients. >> i so far haven't heard you tell me any. the fact is that 65% of americans don't want a bailout and looks like it's coming. >> yeah. government as a rule should never bail out corporations. if we had bailouts 100 years ago, web van today would be delivering us groceries on a horse drawn carriage. when you bailout corporations you by definition rob the economy of its future by propping up the past and applied to obama care insurers they got in bed with the federal government.