for us to start building out the clinic and hold off on the cu process for the pharmacy. >> i mean, given the space and layout. >> i'm not sure if you saw the plans, the pharmacy /porbgs portion is in front of the -- so it would make -- i'm not sure we could operate the clinic before we have the pharmacy. >> but you could keep working on it? >> correct, reengage our contract. >> the problem is that sort of the organizational business plan is to have that funding -- the pharmacy funding the clinical work -- >> right, you know, i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt. >> that's okay. >> the pharmacy we have on not even half a block away from the new space so we could service clients out of that pharmacy and see them for healthcare around the corner. >> could put a temporary wall along the counter line to provide your access to the clinic. >> absolutely. >> it's not perfect. >> nope. >> it would be a solution. i appreciate it. >> good job. >> mr. sanchez, do you have anything else? >> so then the commissioner fung and to repeat it's to overrule the da order in part or reinstating the permit as

for us to start building out the clinic and hold off on the cu process for the pharmacy. >> i mean, given the space and layout. >> i'm not sure if you

they wisely pulled back within minutes of getting a sense the building is starting to collapse and it did. now, you can see firefighters usingnons now down on to the flames. this building is under construction. so most of the workers left for the day. >> we don't have an idea of what caused this fire. that is not in danger. >> it's no longer out of control. when this building is raging, concern is very real. very understandable. there is no way you can keep it from spreading. >> we want to go now to allen wong with fire chief joanne hays-white. >> they have a mic. she's saying throughout her defensive mode fire is still spreading but they feel like they have an upper hand. she says heat was so intense they had to start what is called a water curtain to spray out radiant heat cracking windows across the street from this fire. there were people living there at that time. she didn't have a number on evacuees but they're comfortable almost everybody in this area is safe at this time. at least. >> reporting no injuries. >> she's reporting no injuries, allen? >> yes. can we listen in right now? >> let's listen in right now. >> i d

they wisely pulled back within minutes of getting a sense the building is starting to collapse and it did. now, you can see firefighters usingns now down on to the flames. this building is under construction. so most of the workers left for the day. >> we don't have an idea of what caused this fire. that is not in danger. >> it's no longer out of control. when this building is raging, concern is very real. very understandable. there is no way you can keep it from spreading. >> we want to go now to allen wong with fire chief joanne hays-white. >> they have a mic. she's saying throughout her defensive mode fire is still spreading but they feel like they have an upper hand. she says heat was so intense they had to start what is called a water curtain to spray out radiant heat cracking windows across the street from this fire. there were people living there at that time. she didn't have a number on evacuees but they're comfortable almost everybody in this area is safe at this time. at least. >> reporting no injuries. >> she's reporting no injuries, allen? >> yes. can we listen in right now? >> let's listen in right now. >> i do

>> the next day we drove back down, found a warehouse in queens and found a couple guys to help us start building system. >> what does a lobster distributor system involved? what are some of the pieces? i know you got up at what time today, 2:00 a.m.? >> we got up late today. first are the tanks. we need a place to hold all of the supplies. our first warehouse, we had -- 5000 pounds of live lobster. we recently moved because the business grew so much. now we have tanks that can hold 60,000 pounds at a time. >> 60,000 pounds? jordan, you are doing sales of ofmillion, 2 million pounds lobster last year. where are you getting all of this? is it all from maine? >> it is all from maine. we are proud of that. >> you get up at what time in the morning? >> 2:00, 2:30. >> ok, and what happens? >> the both to the driving. >> how long is the trip for you? >> round-trip, 10 or 11 hours. >> what is the lobster situation like? is it plentiful? is a lot now, and that is the result of overfishing. overfishing cod, and that is lobster's biggest creditor. >> how many votes do you have these you this -- lobsters? h

they're used to developers saying, i want to build a strip mall, i want to build a parking structure. they're not used to people saying, we want land to build a model organic farm. >> malik startedcery stores have completely abandoned. that's basically all of detroit's inner city. >> other than whole foods, who just came in -- >> yes. >> not a single national food chain. >> no. no, in 2007, farmer jack closed its last stores in detroit. and that was kind of the end of the big chains in detroit. >> this is subsistence farming, not cash crop. you're not going to be selling -- anticipating selling outside of detroit? >> there's greater demand in detroit than all of the farmers locally can supply. first we're going to supply that local demand in the city of detroit. >> to what degree do you think that this model can be replicated in and around the city? >> clearly we think urban agriculture has great potential. and one of the things that we have in detroit is access to huge amounts of land. if we're able to produce even a small percentage of the food which is consumed in detroit and circulate the revenues from that food within our community, then we're able to create a more vibrant,

to abandon their rig in the middle of the street. >> the windows pops and the sprinkler heads in that building started to activate so water and glass were coming down on us, too. our tiller operator actually tommy the turkey murphy, he -- his face actually started to blister. >> reporter: and heat was just part of the problem. >> the building leaned and collapsed in certain areas. >> we have a collapse in the rear of the building. copy? >> reporter: the one big break that fire crews got was that the wind, which had been blowing strongly all day, died down for a few crucial hours as they battled the blaze. otherwise, the blaze could have spread to neighboring buildings that are under construction, as well. >> a lot of things could have happened. this building right behind us under construction, it did start to catch. we caught that very quickly. our crews. >> if the wind had been coming this way, this building could have gone up as well? >> absolutely. >> then it just keeps spreading from site to site. >> absolutely. >> reporter: figure it's going to take about 2 to 2.5 days to take the building down to the fourth floor where the concrete starts. they wan

to us. it is offshore near our area. high pressure starting to build in behind it. we will see clearing conditions. because it is such an intense system, the gradients between the wind of the two is driving the wind out of the northwest. 33, d.c. 27, gaithersburg. temperatures below freezing right now. a lot of slick spots. our big a stories for today. notice how cold it is down the appellations. teens in the upper midwest. the low freezing in places like nashville. 33 in new york and 33 in d.c.. it is going to be blustery. the skies are going to be clear, so at least it will look good. by tomorrow, the wind will come in from the south. that will make us a little bit warmer ahead of our next system. it will bring us showers. i promise, just rain. 36 to 42 for a high. intorow, we will make it the 50's. showers will be possible on friday and into saturday. overall, a nice stretch of season will conditions. we have to get rid of the cold. slick spots on the streets. jack taylor has the word. >> more and more problems. be careful as you head out. we are seeing black ice

the menlo park company wants to use the drones to provide internet access across the world, and they plan to start in africa. titan aerospace builds powered drones that can stay up in the air for up to five years making them a cheap alternative to satellites no. word yet on when facebook will start use the drones. speaking of which, drones are forcing lawmakers to figure out how to regulate airspace. nbc's josh green says they need to figure it out soon as the government expects people to spend nearly $100 billion on drones over the next decade. >> it comes in parts and actually got to build it up. >> there e's an old saying. >> calibrating the campus and that way he knows the orientation. >> it's the difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. >> anyone can learn how to fly. >> by night this hobby has taken on a life of its own. >> day, night, sometimes 2:00, 3:00 in the night. >> reporter: on nights like this the camera is off, and the flying glowing contraption is getting attention. some call it a droefnlt zach and other hobists call it a quad copter. >> i've had people chase me down thinking it's ufos. >> repor

they have done in crimea to eastern ukraine, i think that would be that clearly sanctions are on the table. i think we would start small and build. >> thank you for joining us to be here. still very high in ukraine, and other news from around the world, thousands of troops have marched through the venezuelan capital of caracas on the anniversary of the death of the former president hugo chavez. radicals for the unrest a country has seen in the last few weeks. saudi arabia, the united air of emirates, and bahrain have withdrawn their ambassadors to qatar, accusing them of failing to implement a security accord signed last year. they say they are surprised and disappointed by the move. a south african boxer and friend of oscar pistorius has testified that the former olympian fired a gun under the table of a johannesburg restaurant and then asked someone else to take the blame. we have the report. guarding oscar pistorius on his way into court. the prosecution continues to build the case against him. taking the stand, the first witness to agree to appear on camera, a professional boxer. >> i was really shocked. >> he described an incident at a johannesburg res

to take ovea building. people in one bay area coun will have to start cutting on their water use today as mandatory restrictions low for one robber... police say he he punched a child for his i-p. the fearless chef who chased after him. join us for kpix 5 news this morning... beginning at 4:3 good morni,,,, king. my sinuses are acting up and i've got this runny nose. i better take something. truth is, sudafed pe pressure and pain won't treat all of your symptoms. really? alka seltzer plus severe sinus fights your tough sinus symptoms plus your runny nose. oh what a relief it is >>> a us airways crew is being hailed for its response to an emergency. a blown tire forced the pilot to abort a takeoff in philadelphia thursday. passengers evacuated the triple jet on emergency slides. there were no serious injuries. >>> and officials say the missing malaysia airlines plane continued to ping satellites for hours after it disappeared from radar. sources say two systems used to track the aircraft shut down sequentially, raising the prospect of a malicious act. >>> millions of people are searching for malaysia flight 370,

the local population to give money to the defense ministry, to help build or re-build their military. in addition they're saying start sending us food stuff, things that will be of assistance to soldiers. there is a real deep concern that this is not the end of things with crimea, but really just the beginning. >> even with that kind of national mobilization and that sense of threat is ukraine equipped in any way to resist the russians if they really tried to make a move in eastern you crane? >> no, not at all they're down to a fraction of what they used to be they are calling up reservists. the national reserve that was called up just a few days ago has people going out and training for a couple of days, and then they're talking about sending them out to the east. so what could potentially be the front lines. the military here is very much aware that they can't stand up to the russian army if, indeed, it goes to a toe-to-toe fight. we're hearing from the intelligence sources here in the capitol that there are partisan plans drawn up. they are drawing up plans for asymmetrical warfare. they said that their air defense is good.

to the neo prints. what is this tuesday so we expect the state of the plants on the grounds and check any damage to buildings individuals have also started using ultra lightweight vehicles the cyst to my surprise many elderly people at a high opinion of the design it's late because he sit in the middle of your stupid you it's the same from left to right. and because it's compact. it's easy to know exactly where your vehicle is it with some dealers we can feel safe while they drive us on on on such tourist destinations. their lands and visitors transfer from larger vehicles. i will finally be able to more easily into a business. with that. this just use it as an institutional arrangements that is what is that it's our vehicle inspections and internets. one can envision exporting this one. it supersedes to know. when it ends. wait it's fun and easy knit. so on. which is supporting it tomorrow. new do. i am. cysts. i'm good to see. what a good chance to go with us coming up to this it's sucha thing in ukraine despite wednesday demonstrative until he was by ministers meet in brussels to discuss possible sanctions de juana off the pitch stories fil

used to be when we started out. every machine is connected to it builds the network out in different ways. this isn't seeding control of the internet to anybody. icann is the phone book issue of the internet. it issues the names and numbers. it is the internet corporation for assigning names and numbers. that's all it is. it is like turning the phone book over to a private corporation. in this case it will be a multi stake holder that we are trying to make. >> that stake holder is russia or china and russia and china don't fully let all of their citizens enjoy the internet. isn't that an issue? >> if that's what the commerce department agrees to. but that's not what is happening here. it's based in los angeles, california, icann is and the commerce department is going to okay whatever that movement is. most people who want internet freedom who i have worked with believe this is a really important step to secure the internet and keep it a free entity in countries like russia and china and the places that we have been talking about. it is not a step to turn it over and retreat. >> that is se

roof does not [speaker not understood] for me the intent of a building which requires common open space as it is for most of us and then starts to infringe on periphery together with the excessive building of penthouses to achieve that. that's my thought. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah, are you finished, commissioner moore? >> yes. >> okay, thank you. okay. i guess i need some clarification on -- at the beginning of discussion, i think the zoning administrator, i forget who was -- addressed this, mentioned it. this building is allowed to have a certain percentage above the top floor which is above the 65-foot limit that's allowed for stair penthouses and other things. and i guess 20% can be above. i think thats was -- this is higher than the 20%. how much higher is it? >> commissioner antonini, glenn cabreros department staff. and i'll put the graphic up one more time. the code doesn't allow for the 20%. the edit calculations provided by the architect recently demonstrated it was at 13%. >> oh, 13%. >> the planning code would not allow this project to go beyond that. the code doesn't allow for variances of height. while we're

wouldn't it be wise to take those things and use them to start -- make that the foundation and let's build it together? rather than just jamming it through with one party, with unanimous opposition which will only create animosity, will never result in a cordial relationship, may cause your party to lose the house or senate. he say you're probably right but this is washington and this is politics. >> many republicans have the strategy to run with the healthcare law or go ahead to raising the debt limit and keep your eye on the prize and then do not work with this white house, do not work with harry reid. do not work with nancy pelosi, and just make it all about killing this healthcare law. >> it's not just about killing the healthcare law. it's about having something that makes sense that people can understand -- >> a lot of people think republicans don't have a backup plan. just rip this apart and let it die. >> there are backup plays. that's whine we have the save our health care initiative going on, and a lot of people have signed on. i want to have enough people sign on that it can go

so that will start to build as the evening hours start to move towards us.see if we're getting any heavier rain. just traces throughout the south bay. in san francisco, not too much actifkt. but along the east bay, we're seeing the stuff move towards alameda, richmond. this rain will build in the overnight hours and it may last into the commute. it's 55 in san francisco. 54 your morning low in sunnyvale. tuesday it will get warmer and even on wednesday and beyond. we should see some high temperatures. i'll talk about that coming up in a bit. >>> police are trying to identify a tenang najer who was struck and killed on the freeway this morning. they say he may have been running to catch the train on highway 85. the driver stopped at the scene to try and help the young man. this isn't the first time a person has been struck on the freeway. >> it seems to be on the rise. just pedestrians aren't allowed there. we encourage them to not be on the freeway. things like this happen. you think it's safe. >> reporter: police are looking into what happened. >>> police i

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building that used to be an auto shop. and it used to be a restaurant called the china barn. but thick black smoke could be seen as far away as marin county. it started from homeless quarters that were in the abandoned buildings. it's unclear how the fire started but homeless fires in the area have increased in recent weeks. >> with the economy, we have several buildings in the area that are are vacant and we have homeless members that are frequenting them. so they are habitatting these -- ha bitting these buildings. >> this is video from back in february of a fire at a building just a few blocks from here. that building used to be an army surplus store. investigators say this fire also started from a homeless encampment. back out here live luckily no one was hurt in this fire. overall it took about an hour to put it out. live until vallejo brian flores ktvu channel 2 news. >>> there is a shakeup surrounding the future of ring kong valley fire services. they want santa rosa to take over fighting in their district but the proposed shift threatens to derail a plan to consolidate their agencies. a vote on the schedule asked proposed tomorrow night. >>>

to skype. they started chasing it but ended up being so natural ability. building on the remarks history has to be stricken from the right they started shooting at us through most of cocktails and gas grenades at the local news straight to say it was our squads that the sector's headquarters. but it's not true is the base of the reit sector radicals. it's more here. the chief policeman was sent from kenya and is covering these gunmen. they opened fire on us. guests from different locations they were shooting from the roof and the windows they sometimes open the doors and shot from inside the mall to cocktails were also thrown at our guides. russia's foreign ministry special representative for human rights says that the arrest of millet in neo fascist and hike it should mark the beginning of a large scale operation to clamp down on extremists in the statement was made on his twitter feed. well let's now i have a look at what the people accused of the way in a shooting spree and four they barged into government offices with guns and called for thier homeland to be rid of all non ukrainians. do you do it. no one tells us went to bear arms and whatnot. he was

>> so we, i think everybody wanted this to start relatively slow and build up to give us a chance toork out what the production process was going to look like in real time. we've done sales through our own site. i think we designed it by default to kind of ramp up and start relatively slow. that is what i can tell you right out of the gate. we look forward to moving the needle really quickly and building up our relationship with the company. >> you talk about moving the needle quickly. it was less than a year ago i had the opportunity to interview marc andreessen in "all things d" and you go to a store with 3 d printer and whatever you want and it would be boom, made on site s that happening far faster than he anticipated it? >> anybody who has been around three d printing and discussing had that vision. it comes down to pace of innovation. when two d printing came along it took a long time to mainstream out in part because so few companies are involved. today with crowd funding and all things going on with multiple companies participating the needle is moving a lot faster in terms o

there is hardware and software that allows us to take large amounts of data and make it meaningful. to start to prove the performance of buildingsey need an approach of performance of human beings in those buildings. >> you design for the biggest names in tech. a teche the demands of company headquarters and how does that differ from others? >> the technology business is incredibly competitive. what you have is a demanding client which makes it really fun to be a designer. design,igh demands for high expectations. they want facilities that can help them compete for the best employees in the world and they really want facilities where those employees can reach maximum performance and high performance teams. let's talk about the difference between google, samsung, amazon -- how are each of these projects different and how did they ask you to approach them? >> the tech business is like many businesses. you need differentiation to compete. theseach -- each of companies is different and they work hard to be different and to be unique. with that, you get unique cultures. we arere, as architects, looking into those cultures and product

started a non-profit internet service provider using resources from the community. we received no government funding, and started building an internet service provider to provide service to our neighbors. over time that grew. we morphed and became a for-profit company, and now we're providing the same level of service that google is providing in kansas city. we provide that here in lawrence. >> we got to hit a break. i want to find out if he believes that is sustainable. additionally, how can we guarantee fair internet access to everyone? the answer might be out of this world. >> this is the real deal man... >> i'm a writer. i'm a blogger, and i'm in "the stream" . >> welcome back. we're discussing the impact of americans growing use of the internet and how to make the ever increasing demand. check this out. a group in new york is hoping to launch many satellites into space that would send free wi-fi back down to earth. candace, if that doesn't happen or happen in the near future what steps could be taken to make sure that consumers are getting fair access? >> i think the only way that we can insure that everyone is getting fair access is to push the fcc to do the thi

us over the top. >> let's do it. >> reporter: what you're going to find out there's going to be a tremendous g force that starts to buildms, the sink rate. what's that telling us? >> telling us we're sinking too fast and going too fast. you can hear the air frame. this literally would be where stuff is starting to fall off the airplane. the airplane would begin to break apart in the air. pieces literally coming off. and if you can level off which mitchell will try to do, you pass such a level of g force you can't imagine whether it's even survivable in the back or whether anybody would be conscious. that's why we say when you try to run this through this simulator, it really can't be done. >> the actual numbers of 45,000 and 23,000, martin, may be slightly off. they sort of admit that the radar capability of the malaysians might not have been as strong. but the fundamental point of going up and coming down, do the two of you believe that would have been possible in these circumstances albeit not to the extremes? >> mitchell? i'm going to put it to you. >> that is definitely in the realm of the extreme. going up and down

we propose to expand early head start and childcare partnerships for more of our children, allowing us to build on the process of reforming head start. in this way the president funds the growth and security opportunity initiatives for 100,000 children with access to high-quality learning. suggestal competitors that this makes good economic sense. china plans to increase preschool enrollment by 2020. in japan virtually every four-year-old attends preschool. if we want our children to compete for the global jobs of the future, these investments really matter. this budget expands voluntary home visitation so that we can empower our children's first and best features, their parents. the investments do not add a dime to the deficit. one of the ways they are paid for is through an increase to the tobacco tax, which we know encourages younger americans from smoking. every day more than 3000 children try their first cigarette. nearly 1000 per day become daily smokers. efforts to reduce smoking habits are imperative. these investments have broad bipartisan support from governors, from business, militar

to us. i would like our country to start thinking about mexico and building the keystone pipeline and using the north american alliance of energy is a powerful tool. finally, i don't want to underestimate my colleague. senator brosseau says if we would just streamline these processes, yes, i am for streamlining and expediting. i also hope critics of the administration will focus on what we can do to help ukraine minimize corruption. what can we do to enhance the $1 just a mr. chow said was drop in the bucket? for the record, you should submit what would sin the most positive signal. there is a lot of criticism from one side to the administration. i would like to go on record saying for my colleagues on the republican side, put your money where your mouth is. you want to help? step up with additional funding to help ukraine and not just blame someone else because permits are going slowly. i will let you have the last word. >> thank you. this has been a great hearing, certainly a good way to kick off your first full committee hearing as chair on an issue holdss clearly timely and so much promi

to us. i'd like our country to start thinking about mexico, and, of course, building the keystone pipeline, in my view, and using canada and mexico, the north american alliance of energy is a powerful, powerful tool, and, finally, i don't want to underestimate my colleague, senator barrasso says if we streamline processes, yes. i'm for streamlines and i'm for expediting, but i hope critics of the administration focus on what can we do to help the ukraine minimize corruption? what can we do to, you know, enhance the $1billion that you said, mr. chow, was a drop in the bucket. submit what you think is significant investment to ukraine that sends the most positive small. while there's a lot of criticism from one side to the administration, i would also like to go on record saying, for my colleagues, and this is not senator mccows ky, but others on the republican side, put your money where your mouth is. you want to help? put the money towards ukraine and don't blame anybody else because permits are going slowly. i'll let you have the last word. >> thank you, madam chairman. this has been a grea

to the main embassy building. >> many of these students started to shake the main gate and to climb over or use cutters to cut theain. >> sickman and another marine make it inside the building just as a group of students makes it through the gate. >> your adrenaline is pumping. but at the same time, you're trying to load your pistol. you're thinking, here is rocky sickman from missouri. this is where it's going to end. >> sickman says he and his colleagues are ready to shoot but receive an order to stand down. >> our orders are don't fire, don't antagonize because help is on the way. we have people coming. we'll get this resolved. >> but instead of resolution, it's more revolution. the iconic image of the students parading their hostages before the media is replayed countless times to a country that feels it's being held hostage. >> the morning that we were taken they brought us out to the front of the embassy. there were thousands of people at this point in time. >> the 52 americans become human bargaining chips as the students demand the u.s. return the shah to iran. for the next 14 months rosen says the captor

to start paying attention to. people build things but they do not stop to think about the ramifications. we useas an example to show that you can take something from a videogame and build it for a few thousand dollars in a short amount of time. it is not just of legislators and entrepreneurs, but with the public in general. they will be governed by laws and affected by technology. >> explain, how did you test this? >> we actually have a mannequin and special test darts. we did a three-week period of testing. people in our company works cited to be the one in the video. we had a trial. jackson is an intern, but we did not take him because of that. he is picked because he's physically superior to most of us geeks at the company. >> if he is physically superior to most of the geeks, what was the response from the engineers at the company? you have received a lot of publicity. >> we are excited about it. our goal is to do technology demonstrations to raise public awareness of just how far we have come with technology and how easy it is for all manner of things to be created. this is a big attention

to a deadline and we'll see if there is any impact here in california. . >>> complete bay area coverage starts now on the ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> thank you for joining us, we are outside the federal building because that is where leyland yee is expected to appear in just a few hours. new information about the case against a state senator this morning. this started this whole fbi investigation and it will be very -- excuse me. >>> it is monday and let's talk about with weather and traffic. we still have some rain gear and it would be a wise broad den choice. the system is on the way and we will be here and there could be some light rain but this is a very strong front. rain develops, possibility of lightning and a low will move over us and it offers us a better opportunity for tuesday. snow levels are coming down, 3500 feet and we still have a ways to go and there is still a little bit not even when you see the wind direction and it is almost everybody coming up to santa clara valley and that's a sign the front is on its way and we are still back here and there is a little bit beginning to show up now. we have reports reaching the ground and if they make it, they will be surprised. 50s and

to help us. >> paul, what to do you think of edward snowden putting a burden of responsibility on the people building companies, now to start building secure products first? not just user-friendly but secure? >> i think it is important. the last decade or two decades in technology, you cannot rely on users to figure out how to pick up after themselves when it comes to security. we saw that with this security protocol and logging on that people have to be forced to adopt these technologies piece by piece. at any time there's a chink in the armor, you have to train people to be more prudent. >> isn't the other side of the message is there are business opportunities for entrepreneur to create systems more secure on behalf of people whose real value is their ability to create software that people like to use? google is doing that. >> yeah -- >> how hard is it to create a product that's actually user-friendly but also secure? from the very early -- >> it has never been done. that is why it is such a great model. i do not think that from the -- the thing we are talking about is -- forget our government. let's pick some other coun